Why does the 370z get so much disrespect...

DEpointfive0 · 11-02-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

As a matter of fact, Ill probably go drive one tomorrow for the hell of it lol.

Do it, you'll appreciate your Z 10 times more

Dcocci · 11-02-2014, 12:21 PM

Holy **** 33k for a BRZ lololololol I hope they wined and dined him first

scorp38 · 11-02-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcocci

Holy **** 33k for a BRZ lololololol I hope they wined and dined him first

That's what the premium models cost with leather and navi all that ****. Out the door yeah stupid.

Dcocci · 11-02-2014, 12:27 PM

Seriously though, I remember the BRZ STI rumors, which was to be a turbo'd BRZ. If they built a BRZ with a STi engine, RWD, Brembos and a better suspension/ wider wheels and tires, I'd trade in the Z tomorrow. Period.

scorp38 · 11-02-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcocci

Seriously though, I remember the BRZ STI rumors, which was to be a turbo'd BRZ. If they built a BRZ with a STi engine, RWD, Brembos and a better suspension/ wider wheels and tires, I'd trade in the Z tomorrow. Period.

Yeah but if it came to be, judging by the cost of a regular brz it would cost probably 1-2k more than a wrx sti.

Dcocci · 11-02-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scorp38

Yeah but if it came to be, judging by the cost of a regular brz it would cost probably 1-2k more than a wrx sti.

That's cool. Id still be very interested.

scorp38 · 11-02-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcocci

That's cool. Id still be very interested.

Yeah I've been hoping that they would do it with the ae86. I figure the Japan market would get it first then trickle over here eventually. I'd rather see a performance version or the fr-s over the brz.

dant1127 · 11-02-2014, 01:22 PM

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danegrey · 11-02-2014, 03:04 PM

I don't really have a feeling for the FRS/BRZ, I really could not find a driving position, a bit too tall for the little car, where the Z, plenty of headroom (i'm 6"3").. just enjoy and love my Z......

grant · 11-02-2014, 04:55 PM

If you want a 215 Hp car that's fun to drive get a Juke NISMO RS. Within an inch of the Z in track and wheelbase, and it really scoots through traffic. Only my Z is more fun.

0101 · 11-02-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn

I know there will be some bias towards the 370z but it can't be as bad as the FRS/BRZ fanboys, so what is the consensus?

So I just bought my 370z.
I cross-shopped the BRZ, S2000 and Cayman. I drove the BRZ about 4 times trying to make up my mind.

All cars have pluses and minues.
The BRZ is slow as ****. Slower than you think. It's rediculous how slow it is.
That said, I had every intention to supercharge it day 1.
Watch a youtube video of the Litchfield BRZ and it's f*cking sick.
I also wanted to track whatever car I bought. This is where I decided aginst the BRZ. If you dig into the forums, and read up on the track guys, the BRZ is a big piece of ****. The core problem is the engine suffers from an bad direct injection design which causes detination and causes the engine to gernade. MOST of the track guys I saw stopped racing it out of fear.
This can apparently be fixed with a good tune, but it seems like a bad issue that would cause undo worry. A 200hp $24,000 car is not worth that level of worry. If I wanted to worry about my POS car blowing up, I would have bought a Cayman. Also, to replace the injectors requires massive amount of labor.
And even supercharged, the BRZ isn't fast. A supercharged BRZ is slower than a S2000 or 370Z.

The BRZ handles good, it's lower to the ground and more gokart like. I dig it. It needs 240-280hp from the factory to be a good car.

scorp38 · 11-02-2014, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 0101

So I just bought my 370z.
I cross-shopped the BRZ, S2000 and Cayman. I drove the BRZ about 4 times trying to make up my mind.

All cars have pluses and minues.
The BRZ is slow as ****. Slower than you think. It's rediculous how slow it is.
That said, I had every intention to supercharge it day 1.
Watch a youtube video of the Litchfield BRZ and it's f*cking sick.
I also wanted to track whatever car I bought. This is where I decided aginst the BRZ. If you dig into the forums, and read up on the track guys, the BRZ is a big piece of ****. The core problem is the engine suffers from an bad direct injection design which causes detination and causes the engine to gernade. MOST of the track guys I saw stopped racing it out of fear.
This can apparently be fixed with a good tune, but it seems like a bad issue that would cause undo worry. A 200hp $24,000 car is not worth that level of worry. If I wanted to worry about my POS car blowing up, I would have bought a Cayman. Also, to replace the injectors requires massive amount of labor.
And even supercharged, the BRZ isn't fast. A supercharged BRZ is slower than a S2000 or 370Z.

The BRZ handles good, it's lower to the ground and more gokart like. I dig it. It needs 240-280hp from the factory to be a good car.

Yes I've heard from a couple people and read the fa20 makes good power when boosted, but can't handle it for long. Cosworth is trying to work out a deal with Subaru to be a factory upgrade option. This would be covered under warranty as well with 3 packages to choose from. So there might be hope for a boosted factory brz.

trackster22 · 11-02-2014, 07:21 PM

When shopping for my fifth Z car in 2012 I did look at the BRZ/FRS design. I thought it was a nice vehicle, but they didn't "pop" like the Z, so I continued with the Z line and now am on my sixth one. I like to watch people watch cars go by and enjoy doing it myself. A guy in my neighborhood owns an Audi R8 and when that sucker goes by I stop and stare and think - if I just had another $100,000 that would be my car. But what I have noticed when cruising in my Z is that a large number of folks just stop and stare at the car as it goes by. I also watch people as a BRZ/FRS goes by. They don't look in the same way since it seems it is more just another car on the road. I have always liked that there are not many Z cars on the road. While I live out in the remote state of New Mexico I have probably only seen a dozen or so Z cars in the last year. I like that. But I have seen literally hundreds of the BRZ/FRS line. To me the Z is something very special and unique and that is worth everything. trackster22

scorp38 · 11-02-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by trackster22

When shopping for my fifth Z car in 2012 I did look at the BRZ/FRS design. I thought it was a nice vehicle, but they didn't "pop" like the Z, so I continued with the Z line and now am on my sixth one. I like to watch people watch cars go by and enjoy doing it myself. A guy in my neighborhood owns an Audi R8 and when that sucker goes by I stop and stare and think - if I just had another $100,000 that would be my car. But what I have noticed when cruising in my Z is that a large number of folks just stop and stare at the car as it goes by. I also watch people as a BRZ/FRS goes by. They don't look in the same way since it seems it is more just another car on the road. I have always liked that there are not many Z cars on the road. While I live out in the remote state of New Mexico I have probably only seen a dozen or so Z cars in the last year. I like that. But I have seen literally hundreds of the BRZ/FRS line. To me the Z is something very special and unique and that is worth everything. trackster22

There is definitely a low amount of 370zs on the road compared to toyubaru twins. I see like 20 or more a day its ridiculous.

Digital neOn · 11-02-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scorp38

There is definitely a low amount of 370zs on the road compared to toyubaru twins. I see like 20 or more a day its ridiculous.

I live in the Portland area which is large and have only seen a handful of Z's since i started getting interested in the Z. So in about 6 months i remember counting 8 370z's and i suspect that i have seen the same couple of Z's more then once so the actual number is probably smaller.

Even before i knew too much about Z and before i was even interested i would always stare at my neighbors Z. I thought it was some kind of rare GTR Porsche thingy...

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Dcocci Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 215 Drives: 2014 370z black 6spd Rep Power: 12	Holy **** 33k for a BRZ lololololol I hope they wined and dined him first DEpointfive0 likes this.

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 73 Posts: 3,194 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649541	I don't really have a feeling for the FRS/BRZ, I really could not find a driving position, a bit too tall for the little car, where the Z, plenty of headroom (i'm 6"3").. just enjoy and love my Z...... __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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grant Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 128 Drives: AMG C43 Rep Power: 15	If you want a 215 Hp car that's fun to drive get a Juke NISMO RS. Within an inch of the Z in track and wheelbase, and it really scoots through traffic. Only my Z is more fun. Last edited by grant; 11-02-2014 at 04:58 PM.

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trackster22 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 60 Drives: 2014 BS SportTouring Rep Power: 16	looked at both When shopping for my fifth Z car in 2012 I did look at the BRZ/FRS design. I thought it was a nice vehicle, but they didn't "pop" like the Z, so I continued with the Z line and now am on my sixth one. I like to watch people watch cars go by and enjoy doing it myself. A guy in my neighborhood owns an Audi R8 and when that sucker goes by I stop and stare and think - if I just had another $100,000 that would be my car. But what I have noticed when cruising in my Z is that a large number of folks just stop and stare at the car as it goes by. I also watch people as a BRZ/FRS goes by. They don't look in the same way since it seems it is more just another car on the road. I have always liked that there are not many Z cars on the road. While I live out in the remote state of New Mexico I have probably only seen a dozen or so Z cars in the last year. I like that. But I have seen literally hundreds of the BRZ/FRS line. To me the Z is something very special and unique and that is worth everything. trackster22

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Dcocci Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 215 Drives: 2014 370z black 6spd Rep Power: 12	Seriously though, I remember the BRZ STI rumors, which was to be a turbo'd BRZ. If they built a BRZ with a STi engine, RWD, Brembos and a better suspension/ wider wheels and tires, I'd trade in the Z tomorrow. Period.