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Digital neOn 10-31-2014 07:15 PM

Why does the 370z get so much disrespect...
 
From BRZ and FRS owners? Hello everyone, i am a new member and hope to purchase a 370z very soon. I was also interested in the BRS/FRS but after extensive research i came to the conclusion that the platform was not for me. The BRZ/FRS are great cars from what i have gathered; however, i often hear the following from BRZ/FRS owners:


'the BRZ/FRS has better handling'

'the BRZ/FRS can beat the 370z on the right track'

'the 370z is too heavy'


Now i know that the BRZ/FRS has a strong marketing campaign :stirthepot: and that has something to do with the BRZ/FRS being portrayed as some mythical world beater, i also know that some BRZ/FRS owners are a tad bit out of touch with reality but do people here have experience with the BRZ or FRS that can chime in? Most reviews i have seen that praise the BRZ/FRS basically praise how fun of a car it is even when they compare it to different vehicles and often times the BRZ/FRS is somehow favored over many other performance/sports cars because it's "fun".

From what i have gathered, in most tests the 370z has better skid pad performance and at least equal slalom numbers. I know the BRZ/FRS have very sharp and responsive steering and are fun to drive but as a whole that does not seem to make the BRZ or FRS a "better handling" car. Am i wrong or am i missing something such as major 370z flaws?


And yes i know this has been beaten to death and that the FRS head unit looks like it came from a 1988 Pontiac Trans Am. I also know there are some BRZ/FRS owners that claim such silly things as they can break into the 13s by dropping 250lbs off their vehicles which normally run high 14's to mid 15's. :eek:

I know there will be some bias towards the 370z but it can't be as bad as the FRS/BRZ fanboys, so what is the consensus?

1st 10-31-2014 07:25 PM

A sparrow lays its eggs in an oak tree.

Shawa 10-31-2014 07:31 PM

I am all about well balanced vehicles, handling and straight line performance. The BRZ and FRS handle amazing, but when a new Camry can take me off
the line I'll pass lol the pull is just non existent.
I like an all around fun car, and the Z imo is a blast. Over the BRZ I'd take an S2k any day of the week, handles on rails and def feels faster and more torquey.

tnav 10-31-2014 07:36 PM

All I know about the BRZ/FRS is that they are made by Fisher Price ha-ha!

NewtoZ's5 10-31-2014 07:36 PM

Penis envy?:wtf2:

Zerocool 10-31-2014 07:39 PM

Easy question.

Like others who bash on the Z, they feel threatened by the car. I can't speak for everyone but the 370 is rare to see in NY compared to the brz/frs whch most likely is due to the price point. Brz/Frs starts off around 25k If I'm not mistaken. I bet the majority of those owners that open their traps about our Z's(meaning the forum guys and other owners of the 370z) have never driven/owned a Z. If they did I highly doubt they would trade it in for a brz/frs.

I personally don't have a problem with the car. I think it's a nice looking RWD, light, agile machine. I just feel that it's lacking power which a turbocharger can fix.

blackcherry20 10-31-2014 07:46 PM

:tup: personal taste. Dur.

Drive both. Whichever one gets your blood pumping. Buy it.

BRZ is an awesome looking vehicle.
But.

it has a back seat.

Knocked it off my list of "sport car".

Thus Harry (my beloved Z).

Again. Personal preference. No fan boy crap.

:tup:

Digital neOn 10-31-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnav (Post 3018453)
All I know about the BRZ/FRS is that they are made by Fisher Price ha-ha!

Surprisingly one BRZ owner told me that 370z's have ugly interiors. :ugh: needless to say i didn't bother arguing.

blackcherry20 10-31-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3018461)
Surprisingly one BRZ owner told me that 370z's have ugly interiors. :ugh: needless to say i didn't bother arguing.

Excellent decision. :tup:

gomer_110 10-31-2014 08:46 PM

As far as performance goes, take a look at the results from the SCCA Solo national championship in the C street class. The 370z's easily disposed of the Toyobaru's.

Tadpole 10-31-2014 08:48 PM

I outran a turbo'd one at the drag strip. Pretty sad for him actually.

Digital neOn 10-31-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3018488)
As far as performance goes, take a look at the results from the SCCA Solo national championship in the C street class. The 370z's easily disposed of the Toyobaru's.

I just checked out the results from 2013. I see a lot of 370s doing very well for the C class, in fact a 370z got the fastest time. I'm not sure i seen any BRZ's or FRS's in there though, maybe i'm blind though.

I have researched a lot times of different tracks to compare 370z times to BRZ/FRS times. So far the 370z has comfortably beaten the BRZ/FRS on all the tracks in which both vehicles took part. Then again the 370z should smash any BRZ/FRS in a strait.

Codename067 10-31-2014 09:16 PM

I haven't anyone dissing or disrespecting the Zs. BRZ/FRS has better handling? Those cars are for wannabees. Almost everyone that buys it, buys it because its a "sport" car..."sport".

My brother has a FRS. The Z spanks the poop out of it in every aspect I could think of.

Zoren 370 10-31-2014 09:31 PM

As I expected. Bombs away!

What a way to start your 1st post.

No comparison between the Z and BRz

No apples to apples so...cant comment on it.

Digital neOn 10-31-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codename067 (Post 3018499)
I haven't anyone dissing or disrespecting the Zs. BRZ/FRS has better handling? Those cars are for wannabees. Almost everyone that buys it, buys it because its a "sport" car..."sport".

My brother has a FRS. The Z spanks the poop out of it in every aspect I could think of.


There is a lot of FRS/BRZ owners comparing their cars to the 370z. Most of this is through forums and a popular belief among BRZ/FRS owners is that their cars "handle better" and the 370z is too heavy, ect.

As for your second point. The BRZ/FRS is a good car, from what i have found, i would compare it to a Miata. Its faults is that it has a very, very cheap interior, has mechanical issues, and has a very weak power plant. Add all this together and i think it is an over priced car, i would not pay $29,000 MSRP. The car is nice but not that nice.

It is some what of a gimmick/trend car like most scions but still i think it has some very admirable traits.


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