Why does the 370z get so much disrespect...

Digital neOn · 10-31-2014, 07:15 PM

From BRZ and FRS owners? Hello everyone, i am a new member and hope to purchase a 370z very soon. I was also interested in the BRS/FRS but after extensive research i came to the conclusion that the platform was not for me. The BRZ/FRS are great cars from what i have gathered; however, i often hear the following from BRZ/FRS owners:

'the BRZ/FRS has better handling'

'the BRZ/FRS can beat the 370z on the right track'

'the 370z is too heavy'

Now i know that the BRZ/FRS has a strong marketing campaign

and that has something to do with the BRZ/FRS being portrayed as some mythical world beater, i also know that some BRZ/FRS owners are a tad bit out of touch with reality but do people here have experience with the BRZ or FRS that can chime in? Most reviews i have seen that praise the BRZ/FRS basically praise how fun of a car it is even when they compare it to different vehicles and often times the BRZ/FRS is somehow favored over many other performance/sports cars because it's "fun".

From what i have gathered, in most tests the 370z has better skid pad performance and at least equal slalom numbers. I know the BRZ/FRS have very sharp and responsive steering and are fun to drive but as a whole that does not seem to make the BRZ or FRS a "better handling" car. Am i wrong or am i missing something such as major 370z flaws?

And yes i know this has been beaten to death and that the FRS head unit looks like it came from a 1988 Pontiac Trans Am. I also know there are some BRZ/FRS owners that claim such silly things as they can break into the 13s by dropping 250lbs off their vehicles which normally run high 14's to mid 15's.

I know there will be some bias towards the 370z but it can't be as bad as the FRS/BRZ fanboys, so what is the consensus?

1st · 10-31-2014, 07:25 PM

A sparrow lays its eggs in an oak tree.

Shawa · 10-31-2014, 07:31 PM

I am all about well balanced vehicles, handling and straight line performance. The BRZ and FRS handle amazing, but when a new Camry can take me off
the line I'll pass lol the pull is just non existent.
I like an all around fun car, and the Z imo is a blast. Over the BRZ I'd take an S2k any day of the week, handles on rails and def feels faster and more torquey.

tnav · 10-31-2014, 07:36 PM

All I know about the BRZ/FRS is that they are made by Fisher Price ha-ha!

NewtoZ's5 · 10-31-2014, 07:36 PM

Penis envy?

Zerocool · 10-31-2014, 07:39 PM

Easy question.

Like others who bash on the Z, they feel threatened by the car. I can't speak for everyone but the 370 is rare to see in NY compared to the brz/frs whch most likely is due to the price point. Brz/Frs starts off around 25k If I'm not mistaken. I bet the majority of those owners that open their traps about our Z's(meaning the forum guys and other owners of the 370z) have never driven/owned a Z. If they did I highly doubt they would trade it in for a brz/frs.

I personally don't have a problem with the car. I think it's a nice looking RWD, light, agile machine. I just feel that it's lacking power which a turbocharger can fix.

blackcherry20 · 10-31-2014, 07:46 PM

personal taste. Dur.

Drive both. Whichever one gets your blood pumping. Buy it.

BRZ is an awesome looking vehicle.
But.

it has a back seat.

Knocked it off my list of "sport car".

Thus Harry (my beloved Z).

Again. Personal preference. No fan boy crap.

Digital neOn · 10-31-2014, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnav

All I know about the BRZ/FRS is that they are made by Fisher Price ha-ha!

Surprisingly one BRZ owner told me that 370z's have ugly interiors.

needless to say i didn't bother arguing.

blackcherry20 · 10-31-2014, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital neOn

Surprisingly one BRZ owner told me that 370z's have ugly interiors.

needless to say i didn't bother arguing.

Excellent decision.

gomer_110 · 10-31-2014, 08:46 PM

As far as performance goes, take a look at the results from the SCCA Solo national championship in the C street class. The 370z's easily disposed of the Toyobaru's.

Tadpole · 10-31-2014, 08:48 PM

I outran a turbo'd one at the drag strip. Pretty sad for him actually.

Digital neOn · 10-31-2014, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110

As far as performance goes, take a look at the results from the SCCA Solo national championship in the C street class. The 370z's easily disposed of the Toyobaru's.

I just checked out the results from 2013. I see a lot of 370s doing very well for the C class, in fact a 370z got the fastest time. I'm not sure i seen any BRZ's or FRS's in there though, maybe i'm blind though.

I have researched a lot times of different tracks to compare 370z times to BRZ/FRS times. So far the 370z has comfortably beaten the BRZ/FRS on all the tracks in which both vehicles took part. Then again the 370z should smash any BRZ/FRS in a strait.

Codename067 · 10-31-2014, 09:16 PM

I haven't anyone dissing or disrespecting the Zs. BRZ/FRS has better handling? Those cars are for wannabees. Almost everyone that buys it, buys it because its a "sport" car..."sport".

My brother has a FRS. The Z spanks the poop out of it in every aspect I could think of.

Zoren 370 · 10-31-2014, 09:31 PM

As I expected. Bombs away!

What a way to start your 1st post.

No comparison between the Z and BRz

No apples to apples so...cant comment on it.

Digital neOn · 10-31-2014, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codename067

I haven't anyone dissing or disrespecting the Zs. BRZ/FRS has better handling? Those cars are for wannabees. Almost everyone that buys it, buys it because its a "sport" car..."sport".

My brother has a FRS. The Z spanks the poop out of it in every aspect I could think of.

There is a lot of FRS/BRZ owners comparing their cars to the 370z. Most of this is through forums and a popular belief among BRZ/FRS owners is that their cars "handle better" and the 370z is too heavy, ect.

As for your second point. The BRZ/FRS is a good car, from what i have found, i would compare it to a Miata. Its faults is that it has a very, very cheap interior, has mechanical issues, and has a very weak power plant. Add all this together and i think it is an over priced car, i would not pay $29,000 MSRP. The car is nice but not that nice.

It is some what of a gimmick/trend car like most scions but still i think it has some very admirable traits.

10-31-2014, 07:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Digital neOn Base Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Gresham, Or Posts: 35 Drives: Camry...sadly Rep Power: 10	Why does the 370z get so much disrespect... From BRZ and FRS owners? Hello everyone, i am a new member and hope to purchase a 370z very soon. I was also interested in the BRS/FRS but after extensive research i came to the conclusion that the platform was not for me. The BRZ/FRS are great cars from what i have gathered; however, i often hear the following from BRZ/FRS owners: 'the BRZ/FRS has better handling' 'the BRZ/FRS can beat the 370z on the right track' 'the 370z is too heavy' Now i know that the BRZ/FRS has a strong marketing campaign and that has something to do with the BRZ/FRS being portrayed as some mythical world beater, i also know that some BRZ/FRS owners are a tad bit out of touch with reality but do people here have experience with the BRZ or FRS that can chime in? Most reviews i have seen that praise the BRZ/FRS basically praise how fun of a car it is even when they compare it to different vehicles and often times the BRZ/FRS is somehow favored over many other performance/sports cars because it's "fun". From what i have gathered, in most tests the 370z has better skid pad performance and at least equal slalom numbers. I know the BRZ/FRS have very sharp and responsive steering and are fun to drive but as a whole that does not seem to make the BRZ or FRS a "better handling" car. Am i wrong or am i missing something such as major 370z flaws? And yes i know this has been beaten to death and that the FRS head unit looks like it came from a 1988 Pontiac Trans Am. I also know there are some BRZ/FRS owners that claim such silly things as they can break into the 13s by dropping 250lbs off their vehicles which normally run high 14's to mid 15's. I know there will be some bias towards the 370z but it can't be as bad as the FRS/BRZ fanboys, so what is the consensus?

10-31-2014, 07:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
1st A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: I 80 Biz U.S. 50 Posts: 1,708 Drives: Platinum Z Rep Power: 1615	A sparrow lays its eggs in an oak tree. SgtGoldy, onzedge, Z-Girl 12 and 6 others like this.

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Shawa Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 143 Drives: 2012 Fairlady Z MT Rep Power: 14	I am all about well balanced vehicles, handling and straight line performance. The BRZ and FRS handle amazing, but when a new Camry can take me off the line I'll pass lol the pull is just non existent. I like an all around fun car, and the Z imo is a blast. Over the BRZ I'd take an S2k any day of the week, handles on rails and def feels faster and more torquey. UNKNOWN_370, Streetlife, onzedge and 4 others like this.

10-31-2014, 07:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
tnav Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 316 Drives: 2012 370z Silver 6sp Rep Power: 11	All I know about the BRZ/FRS is that they are made by Fisher Price ha-ha! UNKNOWN_370, kidkotic2001, Z-Girl 12 and 3 others like this.

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10-31-2014, 07:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zerocool Track Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: N.Y Posts: 548 Drives: '09 370z Rep Power: 15	Easy question. Like others who bash on the Z, they feel threatened by the car. I can't speak for everyone but the 370 is rare to see in NY compared to the brz/frs whch most likely is due to the price point. Brz/Frs starts off around 25k If I'm not mistaken. I bet the majority of those owners that open their traps about our Z's(meaning the forum guys and other owners of the 370z) have never driven/owned a Z. If they did I highly doubt they would trade it in for a brz/frs. I personally don't have a problem with the car. I think it's a nice looking RWD, light, agile machine. I just feel that it's lacking power which a turbocharger can fix. Shawa, ubs234, What-a-Rush and 2 others like this. __________________ I like pizza

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blackcherry20 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 22,749 Drives: ‘17 badazz Z51 Rep Power: 240458	personal taste. Dur. Drive both. Whichever one gets your blood pumping. Buy it. BRZ is an awesome looking vehicle. But. it has a back seat. Knocked it off my list of "sport car". Thus Harry (my beloved Z). Again. Personal preference. No fan boy crap. Montez, onzedge, Z-Girl 12 and 4 others like this. __________________ Grand Sport Corvette Arctic White

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gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36940	As far as performance goes, take a look at the results from the SCCA Solo national championship in the C street class. The 370z's easily disposed of the Toyobaru's. UNKNOWN_370, Wonka2581 and Digital neOn like this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

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Tadpole A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lockhart, TX Posts: 1,082 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z A7 Rep Power: 17	I outran a turbo'd one at the drag strip. Pretty sad for him actually. gbrettin likes this. __________________ Takeda TR3009P Short Ram Intakes, Custom Dual Exhaust, X-Piped with 18" Resonators & TopSpeed Axle Backs. EVO-R Led Third Foglight,

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Codename067 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: North Hills, CA Posts: 386 Drives: 370z, R1, 636 Rep Power: 14	I haven't anyone dissing or disrespecting the Zs. BRZ/FRS has better handling? Those cars are for wannabees. Almost everyone that buys it, buys it because its a "sport" car..."sport". My brother has a FRS. The Z spanks the poop out of it in every aspect I could think of. cigarclifford likes this.

10-31-2014, 09:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	As I expected. Bombs away! What a way to start your 1st post. No comparison between the Z and BRz No apples to apples so...cant comment on it. blackcherry20 likes this.