z or vette

whiteZ34 · 09-25-2014, 06:46 PM

Vetts are a dime a dozen. And everyone keeps talking about the c7. It's still the same with that, as soon as they hit the dealers they were sold. In my area, there's already about 15 give or take within a 10 mile radius. Why have something everyone has? My opinion.

PaulZ370 · 09-25-2014, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by james west

Bought a 2013 touring coupe magma red. Had it a year and have 1200 miles on it . having it shipped to Naples in fl. At Christmas in a enclosed trailer. Will be living there permanently next summer. My question , I love corvettes . iI need a reason why I shouldn't trade it in for a vette

. I also love the z. . I'm confused.

Buy the vette, since you have to ask...

Nargrakhan · 09-26-2014, 07:44 AM

I think the Z looks prettier than the C7. I'm not all about what goes faster. Odds are, I'll never go that fast. I'm more about what I look good in. Personally I love the Z's lines way more than the C7. That the C7 is becoming more and more common to see, makes me less enthusiastic about it.

I could afford a C7 or GT-R if I stopped indulging in a few of my extra hobbies, but I don't like how those cars look compared to a Z. Plus I sorta like those extra hobbies.

grandpawmoses · 09-26-2014, 08:07 AM

All mods aside, I mean pure stock off the showroom floor, if you figure $$$ per horsepower along with comparing handling, looks, snob factor, braking, gas mileage, etc. your going to find the Z at the higher end of each comparison. Now figure in the availability and costs of mods and the Z will be the winner. Sure, I'd like to have a Z06 Vette but it's a $100K gas hog that's no fun to drive legally.

jpkirk · 09-26-2014, 08:41 AM

So ... OP ... have you figured it out yet? We love our Z's.

You have just reached the break in point at 1200 miles. Have you really stretched it yet? Have you ever really stretched a Corvette? Are you interested in AutoX or Tracking? Both are performance cars. Late model Corvettes will go faster. Is that what you want? Are you going to use it? Most people on here have Z's because they look cool and have very good performance numbers. Is it the fastest car? NO. We don't care ... well some of us don't. Those who do mod the sh!t out of them with super/turbo chargers and then eat the Corvettes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Do you have that level of the mod bug?

Or ... dare I say it ... are you just

Cuz if so, you were very successful at that and you should buy a Corvette.

MJB · 09-26-2014, 09:04 AM

Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

Nargrakhan · 09-26-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.

This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

carlitos_370z · 09-26-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.

This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

you can say it better dude!!! Amen

MJB · 09-26-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.

This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

I get what you are saying... and for the most part agree. I never once stated that a C7 is "better" than a 370z, just trying to make a point that it is way faster, handles and brakes better than a Z. I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z... But if its strictly from a performance standpoint... then come on people, lets be realistic. The Vette is far superior than a Z performance wise... I tried making that statement and it seemed like a lot of defensive people had to jump in with bias opinions. "Vettes aren't reliable, they are everywhere, old men drive them, add HFCs plus a tune and your Z will be just as fast"... blah blah. I just think some people need to tone down the pride a little... its ok to admit the Z isn't the greatest sports car ever made. Its ALWAYS the same when somebody starts a thread asking about other cars, or is thinking about trading in their car for something else... People get so butt hurt and have to completely bash whatever car is mentioned. Cough cough Mustang*.

Of course being faster doesn't make a vehicle better than another... I would have never bought my 370 if that was the case, or my 350.

Nargrakhan · 09-26-2014, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z...

Reading his posts, it seems that he's already set on getting the C7 and wants to be convinced that keeping the Z is better.

He claims to loves the Z and C7 equally in terms of appearance and appeal. So if performance is the determinator... get the C7. If spending is the determinator... stay with the Z. If it's all about bragging rights... well... it depends on the audience.

I'm in agreement with you... these "Car X versus Car Y" topics are ultimately silly "this is better than that" bait.

Me? Who cares what OTHER people think of your ride? It's YOUR ride. More importantly: it's YOUR money. Do what YOU want.

If peer pressure determines what car you buy: see whatever the latest car magazines are gushing over as the hottest thing. Just don't be disappointed if 6 to 12 months later, the magazines are praising something entirely different. Cars are like computers... the next best thing is always around the corner, and what you buy today will be old news tomorrow.

MJB · 09-26-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

Reading his posts, it seems that he's already set on getting the C7 and wants to be convinced that keeping the Z is better.

He claims to loves the Z and C7 equally in terms of appearance and appeal. So if performance is the determinator... get the C7. If spending is the determinator... stay with the Z. If it's all about bragging rights... well... it depends on the audience.

I'm in agreement with you... these "Car X versus Car Y" topics are ultimately silly "this is better than that" bait.

Me? Who cares what OTHER people think of your ride? It's YOUR ride. More importantly: it's YOUR money. Do what YOU want.

If peer pressure determines what car you buy: see whatever the latest car magazines are gushing over as the hottest thing. Just don't be disappointed if 6 to 12 months later, the magazines are praising something entirely different. Cars are like computers... the next best thing is always around the corner, and what you buy today will be old news tomorrow.

He is set on a C7, but like FPenvy mentioned, he didn't even know what a C7 was, lol. I was gonna say maybe to hold out till the Z35 comes out... if it ever does.

jpkirk · 09-26-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

I get what you are saying... and for the most part agree. I never once stated that a C7 is "better" than a 370z, just trying to make a point that it is way faster, handles and brakes better than a Z. I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z... But if its strictly from a performance standpoint... then come on people, lets be realistic. The Vette is far superior than a Z performance wise... I tried making that statement and it seemed like a lot of defensive people had to jump in with bias opinions. "Vettes aren't reliable, they are everywhere, old men drive them, add HFCs plus a tune and your Z will be just as fast"... blah blah. I just think some people need to tone down the pride a little... its ok to admit the Z isn't the greatest sports car ever made. Its ALWAYS the same when somebody starts a thread asking about other cars, or is thinking about trading in their car for something else... People get so butt hurt and have to completely bash whatever car is mentioned. Cough cough Mustang*.

Of course being faster doesn't make a vehicle better than another... I would have never bought my 370 if that was the case, or my 350.

I only got on the bandwagon because the OP never specified which Corvette he was interested in. C7 does bring much more to the track. And like you say in your last comment, faster does not make better when you take into consideration intangibles.

Magic Bus · 09-26-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

I can think of a million reasons why the Z is better and it starts with the letter $

dotcomee · 09-26-2014, 03:07 PM

Do the base performance stats really matter?

Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys.

Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?

Tadpole · 09-26-2014, 09:09 AM

Bang for your buck is this.... hfc's exhaust and tune will get you in the 12's quarter mile for about 1500-2000 range. Drop 10k to 15k for a SC or turbo set up will put you in the 11's easily. Vette killer you become with less than 50k invested worst case.
Most Vettes that I have seen at the strip run mid 12's and break a lot out there.

09-25-2014, 06:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
whiteZ34 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 33 Posts: 217 Drives: 2012 Boosted 370z Rep Power: 13	Vetts are a dime a dozen. And everyone keeps talking about the c7. It's still the same with that, as soon as they hit the dealers they were sold. In my area, there's already about 15 give or take within a 10 mile radius. Why have something everyone has? My opinion. Wolfenstein likes this. __________________ R/T Built motor, wiseco 9:1 Pistons, Eagle H-beam rods, ARP L-19\| BP kit, PTE 6766, EPS 70mm TB, GTR Intake, PRS lower conversion\| ID1000cc, CJM Twin pump 340&255, PRS Rails, CJM fuel return\| Fast Intentions\| R/T Tuned, 660WHP 596WTQ at 18lbs. 93 octane

09-26-2014, 08:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
jpkirk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Merry Land Posts: 5,515 Drives: '14 MidBlu ST MT Rep Power: 3377	So ... OP ... have you figured it out yet? We love our Z's. You have just reached the break in point at 1200 miles. Have you really stretched it yet? Have you ever really stretched a Corvette? Are you interested in AutoX or Tracking? Both are performance cars. Late model Corvettes will go faster. Is that what you want? Are you going to use it? Most people on here have Z's because they look cool and have very good performance numbers. Is it the fastest car? NO. We don't care ... well some of us don't. Those who do mod the sh!t out of them with super/turbo chargers and then eat the Corvettes for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Do you have that level of the mod bug? Or ... dare I say it ... are you just Cuz if so, you were very successful at that and you should buy a Corvette. __________________ intake \| exhaust \| wheels \| tires \| suspension ... um ... stock, do speed stickers count? intake \| exhaust \| TE37 SL \| RE-11 \| suspension ... um ... do speed stickers count? Signature under construction

09-26-2014, 09:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
MJB A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Age: 42 Posts: 1,498 Drives: a POS truck Rep Power: 496	Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better. MX52Z likes this. __________________ 09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.

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Tadpole A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lockhart, TX Posts: 1,082 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z A7 Rep Power: 18	Bang for your buck is this.... hfc's exhaust and tune will get you in the 12's quarter mile for about 1500-2000 range. Drop 10k to 15k for a SC or turbo set up will put you in the 11's easily. Vette killer you become with less than 50k invested worst case. Most Vettes that I have seen at the strip run mid 12's and break a lot out there. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Takeda TR3009P Short Ram Intakes, Custom Dual Exhaust, X-Piped with 18" Resonators & TopSpeed Axle Backs. EVO-R Led Third Foglight,

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Nargrakhan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Nowhere Posts: 176 Drives: Nothing Rep Power: 12	I think the Z looks prettier than the C7. I'm not all about what goes faster. Odds are, I'll never go that fast. I'm more about what I look good in. Personally I love the Z's lines way more than the C7. That the C7 is becoming more and more common to see, makes me less enthusiastic about it. I could afford a C7 or GT-R if I stopped indulging in a few of my extra hobbies, but I don't like how those cars look compared to a Z. Plus I sorta like those extra hobbies.

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grandpawmoses A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Northport, Alabama Age: 81 Posts: 1,398 Drives: a hard bargain Rep Power: 27	All mods aside, I mean pure stock off the showroom floor, if you figure $$$ per horsepower along with comparing handling, looks, snob factor, braking, gas mileage, etc. your going to find the Z at the higher end of each comparison. Now figure in the availability and costs of mods and the Z will be the winner. Sure, I'd like to have a Z06 Vette but it's a $100K gas hog that's no fun to drive legally.

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dotcomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Austin, TX. Posts: 77 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 12	Do the base performance stats really matter? Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys. Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?