Throw out bearing issue

JARblue · 08-20-2014, 09:56 AM

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Shawa · 08-20-2014, 10:13 AM

Dude check this out, the dealer just called me. He said three different service technicians drove the car, and for 5th gear you cannot go all the way right and up. You have to find a smooth gate from 4th to 5th.
I was like listen, I am not trying to be a **** but I've been driving stick for years on and off the track. I have had the car two years, and never a problem with the stick and 5th gear. I bring it to you guys, and now it won't enter 5th.
So he tells me I can take a service technician out for a drive so I am heading there in a bit. Like come on man lol for two years I have been entering 5th and 6th gear differently?

kenchan · 08-20-2014, 11:41 AM

i think i read somewhere there was a simple adjustment you can do to correct this...but i forget wat it was.
something that the dealer usually forgets to do after tranny service.

anyone know wat im talking about?...

Spooler · 08-20-2014, 02:06 PM

It sounds like they didn't put the shifter back on properly. It has to come off to be able to drop the tranny.

JARblue · 08-20-2014, 02:09 PM

I wouldn't put it past them to have installed the reverse lockout plate incorrectly...

Shawa · 08-20-2014, 04:58 PM

Just got the car back. Everything is great but there is a slight difference getting into 5th and 6th gear. You can't go all the way right, then up or down. 5th and 6th gear are about 2cm further to the left now, very close to 3rd and 4th. The first few shifts till I got the hang of it, I actually hit 3rd gear coming from 4th by accident when trying to catch 5th. That close lol. The manager at the service department told me it's because of the new parts and everything has been replaced, even though it def wasn't like that before. Not really a big issue, just different and I have to get used to it especially during spirited driving. Anyone experience this before?

JARblue · 08-20-2014, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawa

5th and 6th gear are about 2cm further to the left now, very close to 3rd and 4th... The manager at the service department told me it's because of the new parts and everything has been replaced

That sounds incredibly strange

They used OEM replacement parts, right? Should be exactly the same as before IMO.

Shawa · 08-20-2014, 05:21 PM

Tell me about it man lol. Reverse, 1st through 4th are great and smoothe. How 5th and 6th changed positions slightly to the left is beyond me.

Shawa · 08-20-2014, 05:22 PM

Yes OEM parts.

Mbreese · 09-02-2014, 01:41 AM

Still don't sound wright ! Shift patterns don't magically change !

batboyvaj · 09-02-2014, 08:36 AM

Mine did the same thing after the dealer installed my z1 kit. I think the tech adjusted the gates. The gates were adjusted all the way to the left causing the shifter to get stuck out of going into 5th. The tech did a 10 min adjustment and fixed the issue.

Smashley · 09-04-2014, 04:48 PM

Same thing happened on my buddy's 2007 350z after a csc replacement.
It seems the gate has shifted and going into 5th & 6th requires some finesse.
Make them fix it.

Fountainhead · 09-04-2014, 08:50 PM

What morons, they know it's wrong but don't want to work on it again so they convince you that black is white and off is on.....I have no respect/trust for stealerships, if I never have a car worked on at one again, it'll be too soon.

No, I'm not bitter, and I've never been ripped off by service....CAUSE I DON'T USE STEALERSHIPS....unless it's warranty and I guess I'd have no choice if it were a 1200.00 CSC replacement.
I feel for you Shawa. I think it's a metal plate that guides the stick shift that has to be adjusted. 'cause the gears didn't move in the tranny, just the position of the stick moving the gears together was changed by the shift plate being out of alignment.

90 ST · 09-04-2014, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk

When the CSC fails does it leak fluid everywhere? If fluid gets on the clutch, I would assume that would necessitate a new clutch. If a new clutch, what about pressure plate and resurfacing the flywheel. This is what we did back in 70's. (ima geezer) I assume this holds today?

The Flywheel is a dual mass, so no resurfacing, it has to be replaced, shitty deal.

OP, as for the change in shift pattern, mine was like that, I had them readjust it and back to normal, unfortunately I've had my CSC and MCS done a few times now. They have forgotten to adjust my reverse look out and shift gate both...
If you go HD clutch, get the HD CSC, the stock one wont last long with a HD clutch.

08-20-2014, 09:56 AM	#31 (permalink)
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08-20-2014, 02:09 PM	#35 (permalink)
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08-20-2014, 10:13 AM	#32 (permalink)
Shawa Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 143 Drives: 2012 Fairlady Z MT Rep Power: 14	Dude check this out, the dealer just called me. He said three different service technicians drove the car, and for 5th gear you cannot go all the way right and up. You have to find a smooth gate from 4th to 5th. I was like listen, I am not trying to be a **** but I've been driving stick for years on and off the track. I have had the car two years, and never a problem with the stick and 5th gear. I bring it to you guys, and now it won't enter 5th. So he tells me I can take a service technician out for a drive so I am heading there in a bit. Like come on man lol for two years I have been entering 5th and 6th gear differently?

08-20-2014, 11:41 AM	#33 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	i think i read somewhere there was a simple adjustment you can do to correct this...but i forget wat it was. something that the dealer usually forgets to do after tranny service. anyone know wat im talking about?...

08-20-2014, 02:06 PM	#34 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,524 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	It sounds like they didn't put the shifter back on properly. It has to come off to be able to drop the tranny.

08-20-2014, 04:58 PM	#36 (permalink)
Shawa Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 143 Drives: 2012 Fairlady Z MT Rep Power: 14	Just got the car back. Everything is great but there is a slight difference getting into 5th and 6th gear. You can't go all the way right, then up or down. 5th and 6th gear are about 2cm further to the left now, very close to 3rd and 4th. The first few shifts till I got the hang of it, I actually hit 3rd gear coming from 4th by accident when trying to catch 5th. That close lol. The manager at the service department told me it's because of the new parts and everything has been replaced, even though it def wasn't like that before. Not really a big issue, just different and I have to get used to it especially during spirited driving. Anyone experience this before?

08-20-2014, 05:21 PM	#38 (permalink)
Shawa Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 143 Drives: 2012 Fairlady Z MT Rep Power: 14	Tell me about it man lol. Reverse, 1st through 4th are great and smoothe. How 5th and 6th changed positions slightly to the left is beyond me.

08-20-2014, 05:22 PM	#39 (permalink)
Shawa Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 143 Drives: 2012 Fairlady Z MT Rep Power: 14	Yes OEM parts.

09-02-2014, 01:41 AM	#40 (permalink)
Mbreese Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cartersville,Ga Posts: 331 Drives: Metalic-Gray,09 370Z Rep Power: 31	Still don't sound wright ! Shift patterns don't magically change !

09-02-2014, 08:36 AM	#41 (permalink)
batboyvaj Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: mn Posts: 111 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 13	Mine did the same thing after the dealer installed my z1 kit. I think the tech adjusted the gates. The gates were adjusted all the way to the left causing the shifter to get stuck out of going into 5th. The tech did a 10 min adjustment and fixed the issue.

09-04-2014, 04:48 PM	#42 (permalink)
Smashley Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 347 Drives: mt/sport/tour MB Rep Power: 11	Same thing happened on my buddy's 2007 350z after a csc replacement. It seems the gate has shifted and going into 5th & 6th requires some finesse. Make them fix it.

09-04-2014, 08:50 PM	#43 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 14	What morons, they know it's wrong but don't want to work on it again so they convince you that black is white and off is on.....I have no respect/trust for stealerships, if I never have a car worked on at one again, it'll be too soon. No, I'm not bitter, and I've never been ripped off by service....CAUSE I DON'T USE STEALERSHIPS....unless it's warranty and I guess I'd have no choice if it were a 1200.00 CSC replacement. I feel for you Shawa. I think it's a metal plate that guides the stick shift that has to be adjusted. 'cause the gears didn't move in the tranny, just the position of the stick moving the gears together was changed by the shift plate being out of alignment.