Z35 motor theory

Huck

I got a chance to talk to the Nissan production manager at Zdayz and he accidentally let it slip that in 2017 they're scheduled to release the 370Z Nismo RS. After I caught him on it he admitted that they are going to boost it, he was talking about the Stillen supercharger which I vehemently trued to dissuade him from. He mentioned a larger stock oil cooler and low to mid 400's for hp numbers. My guess is that they'll stay with their current setup: base Z with a few nice upgrades but nothing huge, same for the Nismo, then the FI Nismo RS which will probably be in the mid to high $50k range. He said they are bringing down the cost of all disease by one or two thousand dollars to start compensating for this new one that's coming out in the next couple years to try to make everything more cost effective for us

Zdayz 2014!!

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Firebase99

Im confused, this is all alleged of course, I understand you stated the Nismo will be boosted, so JUST the Nismo or all models?

watson853

Huck part of me hopes your right cause at least a stock boosted 370z nismo certainly wouldn't suck!

ElwoodBlues

Worst thing about this article: "may arrive sometime in 2017" so it's likely to be a 2018 model.


New details surrounding Nissan's next-generation Z model have reportedly emerged, shedding light on potential engine options and the overall form.

Likely carrying the chassis code Z35, the upcoming sports car is expected to be a significant redesign as the company aims to revitalize sales and expand into new markets.

New engine options will be central to the proposition, providing a choice between a 2.0-liter four-cylinder mill -- borrowed from the Skyline -- or a more powerful 3.0-liter turbocharged powerplant built by Mercedes-Benz and producing 328 horsepower, unnamed sources have told Motoring.

At least one of the variants is expected to be complemented by a hybrid system that places an electric motor between the engine and transmission, producing even more total output when used in conjunction with the gasoline engine.

The company is also said to have decided on a targa or T-top form to "appeal to a wider cross-section of potential customers."

Nissan is not expected to bring a significant price increase for the seventh-generation Z-car, which may arrive sometime in 2017.

Read more: Next-gen Nissan Z to get Mercedes engine, hybrid tech? | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

NoGrip61

I just saw this on WCF too... I'm not surprised about the Mercedes engine sourcing though, after reading about how Infiniti is planning to use a chassis and engine for the Q30 and QX30. Still makes me sad since Nissan and Infiniti are known for their reliability and Mercedes is not...

Nissan 370Z successor will pack hybrid tech and Mercedes engines - report

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1st

Unnamed sources have told Motoring=Rumor!

aszyd

Not this again!

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Zoren 370

As they always say if there is smoke there is fire!
This is not very remote not to happen.
Motor trend is going towards hybrids and turbo charging!
This people knows how to re-direct the Market and instigate change.
Who started the syncro-rev anyway? Is it Nissan?
Now every car maker even the big dogs like Porsche and Corvette follows.

Btw the last time I heard the true essence of a sports car should always be in a manual! I myself is a believer of this.
Well guess what Porsche Gt3 is auto/paddle shifter now...oh did I forget the new Nismo has lost its bonner too!!!
So who dictates the trend now? Is it still the consumer or we are being forced to accept the current technology?

Nargrakhan

I always thought it was the consumer. Don't automatics outsell manuals in the US? Call it laziness, moving on with the times, wanting a freehand to text, or hating the hassle of using a stick. As technology marches on and lowers pricing, the machine will outperform anything a person can manually do, so sticks are becoming more and more about a person wanting that extra fun and/or work in the driving experience.

I doubt the manufacturers care which people choose: only the one that gets the best sales. Their decision to only offer automatic or only CVT, is more to cut production costs than a secret hidden vendetta against sticks.

ElwoodBlues

With Toyota teaming up with BMW for their new sports car I can see Nissan working with Mercedes, doesn't seem so far fetched. Also Toyota did pretty well with Subaru on the twins (BRZ & FRS).


I'd love to see a nice new dual-clutch auto transmission as an option, I'd be all over that. Standard automatic transmission with paddle shift, not so much.

Zoren 370

Precisely my point its all about profit its not about what the consumers want. Its all about more sales with less cost. Nothing against AT but even granny can drive a Camaro with an automatic! Who does heel and toe now only quite a skillfull few....Certainly now I dont with the syncro rev. Its fun its easy.

I remember Porsche said years back they will only cater to making sports cars no SUVs...,.now what do we have the cayenne and the latest Crossover Machan. Who cares about the purist? They are only a few. Widen the market that is where the money is! Make a super car affordable and run through the production line thus comes Nissan GTR with all the driving aids even a 16 year old rich mamas boy can drive one in the track like a pro!
Even car makers have change there game why kill each other when we can team up to survive and build an affordable sports car a 4 banger thus the brz/frs!

What a nice strategy isnt? Why not Nissan + renault + merc come up with the same stategy so that even a newly high school graduate would able to taste what it feels to have a sports car! Again Because its PRofitable.
So the rumors might be just arond the corner.

1st

Unnamed sources have told Motoring the new Z will be twin turbo v8 with upgraded vvl and have a 35 row oil cooler with 4 diffrent type of map settings.

aszyd

The Camaro ZL1 is damn close to that... Supercharged V8 with coolers on everything.

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aszyd

Except the rumors say that Subaru got the short end of that deal and are pulling out of the BRZ market, especially after the ToyoBMW partnership.

Should have released a proper STI, with a turbo, to differentiate them from the Scion.

I say that there are two vendettas against manuals. Lazy people who just want to press the gas pedal and go, and the designers of performance cars who KNOW that their DCTs are faster than a manual. They didn't decide to stop making them out of spite, the market and technology has advanced to the point where manuals are becoming irrelevant.

Also, I love SRM! I can't heel toe for **** and without height adjustable pedals, I don't think I will ever take the time to learn.

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Zoren 370

I agree I certainly think Subaru was the one made more money out of the partnership as Frs have used and will continue to use the subaru boxter engine.

RND is the most expensive dept in the automotive industry. Its cheaper to source out other company who have already made all the Rnd and comes up with a good product.
Nissan has made the right move in choosing Merc to provide turbo charged engine + hybrid option. Hey who is currently making a killing in F1 in terms of reliability with turbo engines guess what its Mercedez Benz!