This is my plan, will it get me to 350 HP?

Portlander · 09-15-2009, 08:23 PM

But will this formula get me the requested 18 HP gain, and if not, why does it work for the Nismo Z? The dealer said the labor costs will run me around $150 which sounds fair. I'm surely not set up to install it myself. Sounds like the big unsolved mystery is the so called "ECU Tune" and what it actually consists of.

MightyBobo · 09-15-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Portlander

But will this formula get me the requested 18 HP gain, and if not, why does it work for the Nismo Z? The dealer said the labor costs will run me around $150 which sounds fair. I'm surely not set up to install it myself. Sounds like the big unsolved mystery is the so called "ECU Tune" and what it actually consists of.

If you'd spend 5 minutes searching, you'd find plenty of dyno-proven results all over the place.

The short answer is yes, you'll pick up your 18 CRANK horsepower at least, more than likely. But I would NEVER even imagine of installing the silly Nismo exhaust for a "performance" gain. So many better options out there...

m4a1mustang · 09-15-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Portlander

But will this formula get me the requested 18 HP gain, and if not, why does it work for the Nismo Z? The dealer said the labor costs will run me around $150 which sounds fair. I'm surely not set up to install it myself. Sounds like the big unsolved mystery is the so called "ECU Tune" and what it actually consists of.

The CBE alone won't. And since we have no idea what their "ECU Tune" consists of we can't really say anything about that. But I'd be very skeptical.

FWIW, a FI or Stillen CBE is going to give you at least +18 hp to the wheels which would technically put you over 350 hp.

Portlander · 09-15-2009, 08:48 PM

Mightybobo, you answered my main question, thanks. Never realized that the Nismo exhaust was that bad of a product, the installation at the dealer was going to be so easy for me.

Steve, the Stillen CBE was initially my first choice and now may end up being what I go with. I'll just have find a place to install it. Is a ECU tune required with that set up, and if not, why, when it's required with the Nismo exhaust. Upgrades seemed less complicated during my 5.0 LX days!

Also read that there were some installation/rattle issues with the Stillen CBE mounts?

m4a1mustang · 09-15-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Portlander

Steve, the Stillen CBE was initially my first choice and now may end up being what I go with. I'll just have find a place to install it. Is a ECU tune required with that set up, and if not, why, when it's required with the Nismo exhaust. Upgrades seemed less complicated during my 5.0 LX days!

Also read that there were some installation/rattle issues with the Stillen CBE mounts?

With basic bolt ons an ECU tune is not required. We have an adaptive/smart ECU which does a pretty good job of "learning" bolt on mods. That's not to say a real dyno tune isn't going to be beneficial... it is, but it's not necessary.

I don't know who told you that the Nismo CBE requireda tune. That's simply untrue.

As far as the Stillen CBE rattling... I think that issue has been fixed. Some of their earlier runs did not fit well and made contact with parts of the car where they shouldn't have. I think they fixed that. I'd definitely check out all of the other CBEs available just to make sure you get the best one for you. I ended up going with FI and should have it late this week or next.

Good to see another Mustang guy on the boards. Surprisingly there are a lot of us here!

Portlander · 09-15-2009, 09:01 PM

Read about the ECU tune on numerous sources including posts here. It was understood that the 18 HP gain achieved by the Nismo Z was due to the Nismo CBE and required tuning. And that was all I was really looking for as far as a performance boost. Thanks.

GingaBreadMan · 09-15-2009, 09:09 PM

Achieving 18 more hp can very easily be attained, but you will not notice the difference in power. Even 18whp isn't a huge jump in power. You will be spending money unnecessarily just to equal the output of the Nismo Z. Imo that's quite silly.

Modshack · 09-16-2009, 09:49 AM

Since you're just going to put the car in the garage immediately for 4 months, why not just wait? Drive it in the Spring and make the decision on what you need to do, You may like it just the way it is.....As a bonus, there will be more aftermarket options and more experience with them out there so you can make a more informed choice..

phelan · 09-16-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Since you're just going to put the car in the garage immediately for 4 months, why not just wait? Drive it in the Spring and make the decision on what you need to do, You may like it just the way it is.....As a bonus, there will be more aftermarket options and more experience with them out there so you can make a more informed choice..

There's no use in jumping the gun when the car is going to sit for four months. Enjoy the car for a bit, then store it for the winter. Come springtime, as Modshack says, there will probably be more options, and more information to help you pick.

09-15-2009, 08:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 17	But will this formula get me the requested 18 HP gain, and if not, why does it work for the Nismo Z? The dealer said the labor costs will run me around $150 which sounds fair. I'm surely not set up to install it myself. Sounds like the big unsolved mystery is the so called "ECU Tune" and what it actually consists of. __________________ Life is a highway!

09-15-2009, 08:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 17	Mightybobo, you answered my main question, thanks. Never realized that the Nismo exhaust was that bad of a product, the installation at the dealer was going to be so easy for me. Steve, the Stillen CBE was initially my first choice and now may end up being what I go with. I'll just have find a place to install it. Is a ECU tune required with that set up, and if not, why, when it's required with the Nismo exhaust. Upgrades seemed less complicated during my 5.0 LX days! Also read that there were some installation/rattle issues with the Stillen CBE mounts? __________________ Life is a highway!

09-15-2009, 09:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 17	Read about the ECU tune on numerous sources including posts here. It was understood that the 18 HP gain achieved by the Nismo Z was due to the Nismo CBE and required tuning. And that was all I was really looking for as far as a performance boost. Thanks. __________________ Life is a highway!

09-16-2009, 09:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Modshack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 2,883 Drives: 370Z Sport Rep Power: 978	Since you're just going to put the car in the garage immediately for 4 months, why not just wait? Drive it in the Spring and make the decision on what you need to do, You may like it just the way it is.....As a bonus, there will be more aftermarket options and more experience with them out there so you can make a more informed choice.. __________________ Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S Oil Cooler DIY: Here!

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09-15-2009, 09:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 18	Achieving 18 more hp can very easily be attained, but you will not notice the difference in power. Even 18whp isn't a huge jump in power. You will be spending money unnecessarily just to equal the output of the Nismo Z. Imo that's quite silly.