product/company warnings

tr0n · 03-04-2014, 06:00 AM

I haven't seen a consolidated thread on this topic, but I would like to start a thread that people post theirs and other's product warnings. The purpose of this thread is not to flame, but to inform and prevent future headaches for fellow forum members. Examples would include (but not limited to) shoddy craftsmanship or shady business practices.

I'll start with some posts I found around on this forum and others.

*warning* theft & fraud by rennen international
"Warning" Kranson Forged Lies and Bs - G35Driver
This Guy's Wheel Self-Destructed And The Company Who Made It Is Blaming Him

ImportConvert · 03-04-2014, 06:07 AM

Berk exhaust.

Product: CBE for 370Z

Issues: Hooks kept sliding out of the grommets and exhaust kept hanging only by the mid-pip on the left side. This was caused by the hooks being angled and not having any swell on the end. Hit a few bumps, and they slid out of the rubber grommets, which only fit partially into, anyway, as the hangers were not long enough to fully pass through the grommets.

Attempted resolution: Berk acted surprised, said they would fabricate a new mount/hanger setup for me. They also accepted credit-card payment from me for new rubber grommets, as I ruined one trying to glue the hanger in.

Final resolution: I sold the car 2 years later never having received anything, nor being charged for anything, by Berk. It is my impression that shoddy work is their hallmark and they are fine with it, based on my experience and multiple contacts with them, during which pictures of the problem were sent, etc.

Haboob · 03-04-2014, 07:24 AM

Never have had an issue with my Berk HFC or CBE.

Chuck33079 · 03-04-2014, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob

Never have had an issue with my Berk HFC or CBE.

My buddy's Berk HFCs have worked fine for years.

On topic, when can we add GTM to this list?

And Mishimoto for making crap that could ruin your car?

I'll give 10:1 odds that this thread is not long for this world.

onzedge · 03-04-2014, 08:00 AM

I have had no issues with my Berk CBE...

XiP · 03-04-2014, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

My buddy's Berk HFCs have worked fine for years.

On topic, when can we add GTM to this list?

And Mishimoto for making crap that could ruin your car?

I'll give 10:1 odds that this thread is not long for this world.

FPenvy · 03-04-2014, 08:13 AM

IBTL? lol

Chuck33079 · 03-04-2014, 08:15 AM

I do find it very odd that this is the only car forum I've been on that doesn't have a separate subforum for product and vendor reviews.

JARblue · 03-04-2014, 08:22 AM

Sweet! Time for some vendor bashing

enkei2k · 03-04-2014, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I do find it very odd that this is the only car forum I've been on that doesn't have a separate subforum for product and vendor reviews.

Not saying this is the case but vendors pay to keep the site running (along with premium membership).

If there was even a single bad review, chances are the vendor will see it, report it to the mods and ask to have it removed since it'll make them look bad. Gotta keep those that pay happy, you know? Otherwise, they'll probably get upset and not renew their vendorship, thus losing one source of income for the forum.

Also, each vendor here has their own subforum. I'm sure the reviews can be posted there. But for those that aren't paid vendors here, then yes, I agree with you that there should be a separate subforum for reviews for them as well.

Chuck33079 · 03-04-2014, 08:35 AM

I think there should be reviews for paid vendors as well. Accountability is good for everybody. I think deleting legitimate negative reviews is bad for the community.

onzedge · 03-04-2014, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I think there should be reviews for paid vendors as well. Accountability is good for everybody. I think deleting legitimate negative reviews is bad for the community.

kenchan · 03-04-2014, 09:06 AM

LGSST sucksarse!

IDZRVIT · 03-04-2014, 09:10 AM

Reviews are ok if they are legitimate but you normaly only get one side of the story. Poor performance from a product can be an actual fault with a part or operator/installation error. Sometimes a part is actually at fault but it may only be one out of 100000 that were manufactured. That doesn't make all of a company's product junk and hence, trash the company in a review.

Chuck33079 · 03-04-2014, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Reviews are ok if they are legitimate but you normaly only get one side of the story. Poor performance from a product can be an actual fault with a part or operator/installation error. Sometimes a part is actually at fault but it may only be one out of 100000 that were manufactured. That doesn't make all of a company's product junk and hence, trash the company in a review.

That doesn't mean we whitewash all negative reviews. There are some vendors here who need to do a better job taking care of the community, and removing any negative reviews dosn't help with that.

03-04-2014, 06:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
tr0n Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 181 Drives: '12 PW base/sport M6 Rep Power: 13	product/company warnings I haven't seen a consolidated thread on this topic, but I would like to start a thread that people post theirs and other's product warnings. The purpose of this thread is not to flame, but to inform and prevent future headaches for fellow forum members. Examples would include (but not limited to) shoddy craftsmanship or shady business practices. I'll start with some posts I found around on this forum and others. warning theft & fraud by rennen international "Warning" Kranson Forged Lies and Bs - G35Driver This Guy's Wheel Self-Destructed And The Company Who Made It Is Blaming Him

03-04-2014, 08:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 63 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	I have had no issues with my Berk CBE... __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

03-04-2014, 08:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I do find it very odd that this is the only car forum I've been on that doesn't have a separate subforum for product and vendor reviews. ImportConvert likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-04-2014, 08:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Sweet! Time for some vendor bashing onzedge likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-04-2014, 08:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I think there should be reviews for paid vendors as well. Accountability is good for everybody. I think deleting legitimate negative reviews is bad for the community. Megan370z, onzedge, SouthArk370Z and 4 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-04-2014, 06:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7626	Berk exhaust. Product: CBE for 370Z Issues: Hooks kept sliding out of the grommets and exhaust kept hanging only by the mid-pip on the left side. This was caused by the hooks being angled and not having any swell on the end. Hit a few bumps, and they slid out of the rubber grommets, which only fit partially into, anyway, as the hangers were not long enough to fully pass through the grommets. Attempted resolution: Berk acted surprised, said they would fabricate a new mount/hanger setup for me. They also accepted credit-card payment from me for new rubber grommets, as I ruined one trying to glue the hanger in. Final resolution: I sold the car 2 years later never having received anything, nor being charged for anything, by Berk. It is my impression that shoddy work is their hallmark and they are fine with it, based on my experience and multiple contacts with them, during which pictures of the problem were sent, etc.

03-04-2014, 07:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1386	Never have had an issue with my Berk HFC or CBE.

03-04-2014, 09:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	LGSST sucksarse! onzedge likes this.

03-04-2014, 09:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 26	Reviews are ok if they are legitimate but you normaly only get one side of the story. Poor performance from a product can be an actual fault with a part or operator/installation error. Sometimes a part is actually at fault but it may only be one out of 100000 that were manufactured. That doesn't make all of a company's product junk and hence, trash the company in a review. __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

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