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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 Taking good care of the community is good business. It generates referrals and repeat customers. Removing negative reviews makes companies look good that maybe shouldn't. Just

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Old 03-04-2014, 09:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Taking good care of the community is good business. It generates referrals and repeat customers. Removing negative reviews makes companies look good that maybe shouldn't. Just because they pay a fee does not mean that they should get special treatment. If they are screwing people, the people getting screwed should be allowed to tell others before they make the same mistake.
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but then people get nervous posting shitt about an existing vendor cause the vendor might have something they might want in the future, and the victim might get blacklisted.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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but then people get nervous posting shitt about an existing vendor cause the vendor might have something they might want in the future, and the victim might get blacklisted.
I have NEVER seen this happen from a decent vendor. Over on M4C, they are VERY Strict about negative feedback on a vendor. However, my threads got Noveske to replace a defective SBR I bought from them (All sorts of issues from an out of spec lower to multiple jams).

The rules were:

-Contact the vendor first, before posting, and work with them until no further resolution could be hoped for.
-Be honest.

If those two were met, the mods would stand with the reviewer, and it would NOT get whitewashed.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have NEVER seen this happen from a decent vendor. Over on M4C, they are VERY Strict about negative feedback on a vendor. However, my threads got Noveske to replace a defective SBR I bought from them (All sorts of issues from an out of spec lower to multiple jams).

The rules were:

-Contact the vendor first, before posting, and work with them until no further resolution could be hoped for.
-Be honest.

If those two were met, the mods would stand with the reviewer, and it would NOT get whitewashed.
that's good to know.

but ive seen some vendors in the past on another car forum that ignored people that did not give good reviews. they kept making up excuses and the sad part was that other people believed them.
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that's good to know.

but ive seen some vendors in the past on another car forum that ignored people that did not give good reviews. they kept making up excuses and the sad part was that other people believed them.
M4C is moderated differently than many other forums, and by people of a different personality. If a vendor did that, they would likely be physically contacted by a moderator / SME / Industry professional in the area to see what was going on. If it was determined they were ******* around, it would severely impact their profit margins.

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I have NEVER seen this happen from a decent vendor. Over on M4C, they are VERY Strict about negative feedback on a vendor. However, my threads got Noveske to replace a defective SBR I bought from them (All sorts of issues from an out of spec lower to multiple jams).



The rules were:



-Contact the vendor first, before posting, and work with them until no further resolution could be hoped for.

-Be honest.



If those two were met, the mods would stand with the reviewer, and it would NOT get whitewashed.

That's exactly how things need to be done here.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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at the end of the day, i got tired of all this non-sense... so i buy most of my stuff directly from japan, or from their US office, or US manufacturer...

or just say f- it, buy it from a vendor, and hope for the best.
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another reason why competent vendors should have a store-front at amazon. people can review not only the product, but the vendor themselves.
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also packaging. you can review packaging on amazon. that's another criteria i comment during my review.

1) product
2) vendor performance
3) packaging

i know there is a luv/hate relationship with some of you and stillen.
i have to say, their packaging has been very good (swaybar)

vs some junk plastic baggie whiteline used on their kangaroo bar. lol
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this thread is still alive?


oh yea no mods get on until about 4pm eastern lol
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oh yea no mods get on until about 4pm eastern lol
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i thought i posted up a few good points.


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As much as a wretched hive of villainy and scum as NASIOC is, this is the one thing they consistantly do right. They allow for vendor and parts reviews to be posted, but it's an understood that you make every effort to work things out behind closed doors with the vendor before you publicly shame them. Until recently, there was only one vendor who had been permanantly banned for being shady- Vivid Racing. Funny enough, they're a vendor in good standing here, or at least any negative reviews have been removed.
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