Stuck on the freeway

DEpointfive0

I don't mean to argue with anyone here honestly, I respect 99.999999% of all of you, and I hope no one is taking it as that, just trying to have a conversation. (Not trying to single you out PureSwank, just saying in general)


Why do I have to avoid doing 5 autoX runs in a row because my power steering fluid will boil, why can't I drive the car hard without the oil boiling over in 5 minutes, why does the brake fluid boil so quickly that the car won't stop on a track? Why does my clutch get spongy and stick after a few track days, even under normal aggressive driving, how shítty is this CSC?


Lets break it down, power steering fluid doesn't boil for 99% of users, oil doesn't get to 260+ for 99% of users, and brake fluid doesn't boil for 99% of users.
The "oil cooler" and brake fluid "upgrades" were done YEARS after the car was released, and mainly due to bad press, and the bad press for the brake fluid and pads was from 2009!
They make cars for the 99%, not the 1% who are very aggressive drivers or who are more comfortable taking a long banking right at like 50MPH with 3-5 gallons of the tank left of a 19 gallon tank.

Recall, I doubt, I'd put money against, until every member calls 1-800-Nissan1 and says they're stuck on a freeway on ramp, then maybe. Until then, hell no.
(Mike, if you read this, I respect you more than a lot of other members, but when you got fuel starve at 15 out of 16 dots, that doesn't mean anything to me personally, I know my gauge, (if it ever shows full) takes almost 100 miles to drop a dot, and you get 4-5MPG on the track, meaning you filled it and within 5-6 miles you fuel starved)

Why aren't we trying to fight a more prevalent problem like the CSC that is made of plastic and gives out anywhere from 10-50k miles. And that requires the transmission to be dropped? What about, the fuel gauge issue, does ANYONE's work properly? Better yet still!!! What about the shítty paint?!?!?! Why do I have to put ugly clear bra on my car for $1000 when I just spent $40k on a car? Recall? Buy back?
The clear bra costs as much as the fix for the fuel pump, and you might be able to install it yourself, while the clear bra takes more finesse, but no one is gunning for Nissan for that. (All I'm saying is that if we're holding them accountable for this $1000, or that $1000 or that $500 or whatnot, make sure you hold them accountable for ALLLLLLLL the problems)

I think the CSC problem way more a PIA than fuel starve, and didn't someone fix fuel starve with a coffee can?

So, recall, I doubt, TSB, I doubt unless people complain enough, even then, I don't see a solution (maybe change the fuel pump if it had been run dry a few times)

Guys, see if from a cost/business point of view, it isn't worth the money to do a recall, if it effects 100 people Nissan doesn't give a fùck, they have bigger fish to fry. It isn't the majority, and it will take so much more money to fix, it isn't worth the hassle, plain and simple. Now, if you want to argue with me that why would Nissan NOT want to appease customers, again, it isn't worth the money, and as a company, NISSAN doesn't NEED you, the dealer might want you, but Nissan doesn't need you, sorry to break it to you guys like that.



Going forward, want a solution, call corporate, tell them you fuel starved, get everyone on the forum to do so, MAYYYYBE you'll get that TSB. (This is a hypothetical, and GOD FORBID it happens to anyone here, but) Want your recall quickly, fuel starve and get killed or badly injured and have it on the news, that'll get a recall quick, remember the Toyota thing that wasn't even Toyota's fault? They got the recall in a week (the guy was lying btw)


Again, not trying to be the àsshole here, I'd buy you all a beer if I could (I bought a beer for a member who I've never talked to because I saw on the calendar that it was his birthday, lol), you're all considered family in my books. I'm just calling it the way I see it.

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Elan

This.
I usually fill up around 3 dots, but I have taken to 1 a few times (not proud of that) and I have never had an issue with fuel starvation. If you drive like an F1 driver, then don't go below half to 1/4 of a tank. Simple as that. It is a 19 gallon tank after all.

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DEpointfive0

People, like Cossie say that they can hit fuel starve after 5 gallons used, so 14 to go.
(again, not trying to single people out, it's just an example on this page)

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OldGuy

We get Fuel Perks here, giving us a one time deep discount on a gas purchase for their one time use. Thus, I let the tank go to NO dots to be able to buy as much deeply discounted fuel as possible. Thankfully, I've never had a problem and have done this often. Maybe the key is to drive gently under such circumstances---which I generally do.

Elan

No dots would freak me out. I get paranoid at one dot and the dread ---

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gurneyeagle

I guess I'm lucky because I've never had the problem, even on the track.

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kenchan

there are tolerances to all parts and cossie and some others just happen to have parts that are near or at the limits, i think.

but spending $27 on a gas can is not bad for insurance.

DEpointfive0

The biggest issue with that, is, a gas tank at home is just as useful as having AAA or any other road side assistance.
I've always wanted to carry a gas cab in the car, but the benefit doesn't outweigh the risk

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kenchan

I was only talking about myself. sorry for being selfish. Lol
I don't AAA.

My weekend drive is only 2 hr long and farthest is 45min from home.
Asking wife to bring gas vs AAA will be about the same time.
My fuel is never below one dot above half.

I wanted to buy a tank anyway for multiple purpose, not just for this.

onzedge

I am pretty certain that me calling my wife up, when I am stalled and 75 miles from home, asking her to bring me some gasoline would be met with hysterical laughter and a click of the phone being hung up.

Geesh, keep your tanks above 1/2 full.

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cossie1600

You want to run this car hard and won't spend 5 minutes swapping the fluids? Here is the difference the fuel starvation and most of the problems you mentioned. You can fix them!!! I can eliminate most of the fluid boiling by swapping the PS fluid, cost $10 and 5 minutes of my day. The same goes to clutch and brake fluid (I do think the clutch is an issue, my transmission bearing is roaring at the drive thru). If you plan to track the car, you have to be kidding yourself that you can just go with a car off the dealer and expect to be fast. You might be able to do it with a slow Miata, but any cars that can go at a decent clip will need a brake overhaul, it's simple math. Also you have to ask if the factory is being reasonable too. I don't expect them to have racing brake pads for me off the shelf, I don't expect them to have a baffle that would allow me to go down to nearly empty. Yet I expect a reasonable design that would give me at least half a tank before I starve.

You are worried about couple paint chips over a car that shuts down with over 10+ gallons in it? You better hope it doesn't happen to you while you have a giant truck coming fast behind you on the highway. It happened to me just a few months back with half a tank in the car. If you want to bring a 5 gallon gas tank behind you, I will gladly show it to you.