Are you a ROAD BULLY when driving your Z?

NissanGuy23 · 08-14-2013, 11:50 AM

This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.

kenchan · 08-14-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

I hate when they drive their golf carts on main roads and don't move over.

ok, now that's funny.

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23

This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.

yah, i hate bicycle ridors too.

i have a lot of them in the wooded area where i take my Z out on weekend drives. most of them ride single file, but you always have these hotshotmofo's with their big muscular bodies thinking they can ride in the center of the road and not yield to traffic or obey traffic signs.

they really need to make bicycle ridors to pay insurance and have special licenses if they are going to ride on public roads.

NissanGuy23 · 08-14-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

ok, now that's funny.

yah, i hate bicycle ridors too.

i have a lot of them in the wooded area where i take my Z out on weekend drives. most of them ride single file, but you always have these hotshotmofo's with their big muscular bodies thinking they can ride in the center of the road and not yield to traffic or obey traffic signs.

they really need to make bicycle ridors to pay insurance and have special licenses if they are going to ride on public roads.

Jeremy Clarkson has the perfect shirt for bicyclists

critical · 08-15-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23

This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.

I can't stand bicyclists! Always breaking the law and riding side by side, or running lights, and just being reckless with their lives and my car's well being.

Magic Bus · 08-15-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23

This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.

I'm not a cyclist and I don't know about PA (I'm going to venture it's the same), but in Hawaii the cyclist has the right to ride in the middle of the lane in the right lane and if making a left turn can ride in the middle of the left lane to make the left turn.

Most people including cyclist, don't realize that this is the law here. Thus I see a lot of cyclist almost get killed for riding far on the right and the car squeezing past them in the same lane pushing them even further to the curb. If the cyclist falls and gets hurt because of this, the driver of the automobile is at fault and can be convicted for manslaughter or worse yet murder 2 if the driver was witnessed harassing the cyclist.

Be patient, use your blinker and wait for a good opportunity to pass. Think of it like following a slow truck, everyone is entitled to the road, not just cars.

critical · 08-15-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

I'm not a cyclist and I don't know about PA (I'm going to venture it's the same), but in Hawaii the cyclist has the right to ride in the middle of the lane in the right lane and if making a left turn can ride in the middle of the left lane to make the left turn.

Most people including cyclist, don't realize that this is the law here. Thus I see a lot of cyclist almost get killed for riding far on the right and the car squeezing past them in the same lane pushing them even further to the curb. If the cyclist falls and gets hurt because of this, the driver of the automobile is at fault and can be convicted for manslaughter or worse yet murder 2 if the driver was witnessed harassing the cyclist.

Be patient, use your blinker and wait for a good opportunity to pass. Think of it like following a slow truck, everyone is entitled to the road, not just cars.

Cyclists don't have the right to ride 30mph under the speed limit and in the middle of the lane in CA. They must go as far over as possible if they can't keep up with the speed limit. Most of the time they ride in groups and side by side while going slowly. I think they should just get off the road.

Magic Bus · 08-16-2013, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by critical

Cyclists don't have the right to ride 30mph under the speed limit and in the middle of the lane in CA. They must go as far over as possible if they can't keep up with the speed limit. Most of the time they ride in groups and side by side while going slowly. I think they should just get off the road.

Sharing the Road (FFDL 37) - Safety Tips for Bicyclists and Motorists

Cyclists can definitely be idiots and inconsiderate when they're on the road, but so can automobile drivers. My post was to hopefully inform 370Z forum members that the pendulum in the criminal & civil courts have swung in favor of the pedestrian/bicyclist and to share the road.

Hope the above link works as you'll see the California and Hawaii laws do not differ much. Bicyclist have a right to the road as much as a car. If the lane is large, the cyclist should ride to the right, if it's small they don't have too. Question is, what's a large lane and what's a small lane (most of the lanes in Hawaii are small, thus they can ride in the center), plus how far right to the curb is right? Just be patient and considerate out there.

osbornsm · 08-16-2013, 09:57 AM

I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule...

Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!!

my2004Z · 08-16-2013, 01:56 PM

I typically do what is necessary to make space between myself and other drivers. Sometimes I accelerate, sometimes I brake, sometimes I go into slalom mode. I can usually influence the other drivers behavior with my presence and by simply doing little things. If I speed up to 2-3 mph faster then the next guy he will try to not let me pass or take off like a bat out of hell thinking it suddenly turned into a race. One thing that gets my temperature up is something we run into here in NM is what a lot of people call a Mexican road block. It's where drivers in each lane refuse to pass one another and block up the entire road. I've seen it where 6 lanes of the freeway were blocked. It causes a chain reaction in traffic where people are at a dead stop 2 miles back and everyone thinks there was an accident. As far as bullying goes - this is the wild west baby, don't write a check that your a$$ can't deliver...

Mt Tam I am · 08-16-2013, 02:07 PM

In my 300ZXtt I could sneak up on bikes (without trying) and startle them with an engine rev.

With the 370 and it's loudness, this has never happened.

Leadfoot · 08-18-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule...

Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!!

YES!!!

DIGItonium · 09-04-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule...

Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!!

The problem I run into when driving to work is that right lane slow is literally 50-60 MPH in a 65 MPH zone.

It's so annoying when I'm 1/2 mile away from the next exit that it's not worth passing the vehicle up front.

Z370Z011 · 09-04-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule...

Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!!

I've noticed that sometimes Under heavy traffic the far right (slow) lane, ends up being faster because everyone tries heading to the faster lanes causing more traffic to build up on that side. Ive actually cut through a lot of traffic by just driving on the furthest lane to the right.. doesn't always work though lol

critical · 08-16-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Sharing the Road (FFDL 37) - Safety Tips for Bicyclists and Motorists

Cyclists can definitely be idiots and inconsiderate when they're on the road, but so can automobile drivers. My post was to hopefully inform 370Z forum members that the pendulum in the criminal & civil courts have swung in favor of the pedestrian/bicyclist and to share the road.

Hope the above link works as you'll see the California and Hawaii laws do not differ much. Bicyclist have a right to the road as much as a car. If the lane is large, the cyclist should ride to the right, if it's small they don't have too. Question is, what's a large lane and what's a small lane (most of the lanes in Hawaii are small, thus they can ride in the center), plus how far right to the curb is right? Just be patient and considerate out there.

The DMV is not a great legal source and neither is the CHP. I think both places state that tint on the front windows is illegal when there are applications where it is perfectly legal.

But back to cyclists. That's good to know about the courts. Here's the law:

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21202. (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed
less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction
at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand
curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following
situations:
(1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle
proceeding in the same direction.
(2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a
private road or driveway.
(3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but
not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles,
pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes)
that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge,
subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this
section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for
a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the
lane.
(4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.
(b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway,
which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or
more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or
edge of that roadway as practicable.

CA Codes (veh:21200-21212)

Fact is these bicyclists that ride side by side or in big packs are breaking the law.

Magic Bus · 08-16-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by critical

Fact is these bicyclists that ride side by side or in big packs are breaking the law.

Idiots

08-16-2013, 09:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 426	I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule... Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!! DIGItonium, PapoZalsa and Leadfoot like this. __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

08-16-2013, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
my2004Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 285 Drives: 09' 370Z w/Sport 7AT Rep Power: 39	I typically do what is necessary to make space between myself and other drivers. Sometimes I accelerate, sometimes I brake, sometimes I go into slalom mode. I can usually influence the other drivers behavior with my presence and by simply doing little things. If I speed up to 2-3 mph faster then the next guy he will try to not let me pass or take off like a bat out of hell thinking it suddenly turned into a race. One thing that gets my temperature up is something we run into here in NM is what a lot of people call a Mexican road block. It's where drivers in each lane refuse to pass one another and block up the entire road. I've seen it where 6 lanes of the freeway were blocked. It causes a chain reaction in traffic where people are at a dead stop 2 miles back and everyone thinks there was an accident. As far as bullying goes - this is the wild west baby, don't write a check that your a$$ can't deliver... Leadfoot and Ghostvette like this.

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08-14-2013, 11:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
NissanGuy23 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 37 Posts: 752 Drives: 09 370Z NISMO PG 6MT Rep Power: 16	This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.