The problem I had is the consistent insistence that a live axle is just as good as an IRS to make a car perform well at a track. And then when that couldn't be argued, the insistence it doesn't matter. Of course it matters. That is why car manufactures spend time and money to develop these systems. That's why the cars in most track racing have it. But the live axle guys have dug their feet in because they can't deal with the fact that their cars are using inferior tech. The Mustang, one of the most recognizable marques around the world, has made forays into IRS (bad or otherwise) just for this very reason. And I'm the one that should let it go? Ford sure isn't, their next gen will offer IRS.

If you start putting other factors in there like good/bad setups, other applications, of course it muddies the whole argument, and avoids the original point.

A properly designed IRS is better than a properly designed solid axle. The Mustang still handles very well with a solid rear. Is it ideal? No. Will it be perfectly fine for the 99.9% of us who don't make our living behind the wheel. Of course. The solid rear isn't the reason I didn't buy a 5.0. It's the interior.

You're still missing the point. All this discussion has ever been about is to dispel the notion that the Mustang CAN'T handle because it is equipped with a live axle, when time and time again it has proved it CAN.

No one is trying to argue that the live axle is just as good or better than the IRS. All we're doing is shooting down the uninformed that assume that just because a car has an SRA means it can't handle, and that just because a car has IRS it can (and doesn't need brakes, apparently.)

We have in fact AGREED with you that IRS is a superior design (when done correctly, of course), but for whatever reason you choose to ignore this.

"IRS is the superior design."

"I know."

"How dare you say SRA is better! IRS is superior!"

"I know."

"WHAT?!?!! How dare you disagree with me!!!"

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acronym soup

I'm going to grill up some burgers tonight. A1 steak sauce, worcestershire, garlic and onion powder, and a bit of cayenne pepper for some pop. They grill up real nice.

I will be grilling on my infrared which has three independent burners, which I hear are better than one solid non adjustable burner.

I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA?

Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum.

There is no silver bullet. There are plenty of cars out there with various suspension setups and drivetrain configurations. Hell there are many configurations of a single type of drivetrain... They all do well and they all beat one another.

People put far to much weight into giving a **** about SRA vs IRS...

When most of the people here (myself included) couldnt push either to its potential.








Now is there any other technology that we would like to argue about, which most have no experiance pushing, as justification to say that one car is better then the other?

Pretty sure some here said SRA can't handle in general.

Anyways, it's the Z guys that get butthurt whenever the 5.0 is mentioned.

blasphemy!!!

OP must be so proud.

I will bite my tounge, but the second i mention Porsche people here got their panties in a wad...

You want me to list off the issues i have with my mustang? its long...

Would I sell it for a Z? no.

Are Z's good cars? absolutely.

What a nice way to kill a slow day at work :p

This think, if it wasn't for this thread we'd all be working right now. :eek:

IRS is a superior framework that allows for superior designs...it doesn't guarantee them.

Also I will race my car against my same car with a Carbon Fiber hood/trunk/other bits. I will then come to the conclusion, that the only way to go is with the weight savings... otherwise its not a proper sports car...

I will then start a thread to which I will argue how its better, even tho most people cannot understand the amount of skill it would take to even see the fruits of it.