Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2337886)

That's because you had the old people shocks.

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2337895)

I had the whole old people car. Most Vette owners don't drive their cars past 60.

And NEVER in the rain.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2337839)

Pretty sure some here said SRA can't handle in general.

Anyways, it's the Z guys that get butthurt whenever the 5.0 is mentioned.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2337834)

I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA?

Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum.

Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 2335794)

I've ran my 350Z on the Nurburgring more than a hundred times. Honestly, there's no way a car with a solid axle will be as quick as something with independent rear suspension, same weight, similar suspension modifications, and driver skill. Still, I wanted to know what m4a1mustang had to say about the Mustang. I never drove a car with a solid axle on the Nordschleife, but I have on the Autobahn. Honestly, it's really not the same. The elevation changes and entry speed on the Nurburgring will definitely cause a problem for a stock Mustang, or any other car with a stick axle. Not all race tracks are flat.

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2335957)

Well said. Test drivers make the Mustang's look much better than they are. Applies to any street car of course. That being said the suspension and lack of quality overall keep me out of US performance cars. I had 2 Corvette's and a Z28 earlier in life. Rattle traps and lack of quality. No thanks. Performance sure. Life and driving are much more than that.

Uneven pavement at speed in a turn will bring a Mustang to life in a bad way catching many out!

Originally Posted by Mecinoid (Post 2336199)

I'll agree with you on that. I do not understand the musle car comparisons either.

If I want straight line power I go for the Mustang, Firebird, Camaro or Vette. Especially if I'm going to gut it. Who cares about the interior then?

If I want tossability I'll go with the Z. The Vette with magnetic ride is close but, it is so much bigger that it's not as nimble as the Z or transitions as well in my opinion. However, I have not had both at the same road course ever.
The competition mode on the Vette might make a difference on the track. However, on the street I'll take the Z every time for ease of use, getting around and parking situations. Those big doors on American Muscle suck.

Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 2336558)

it only doesn't matter on the track, try to take a corner on a bumpy street and see what happens...

Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 2336678)

maybe cuse you know better, ie slow down through curves ect...i've driven T/As for many years and and i bought a Z because I was tired of slowing down before each turn

Originally Posted by Caustic (Post 2336905)

Or just go for a car with with an IRS suspension which everyone in this thread has already admitted is the superior solution.

Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 2337171)

Perhaps on a flat track where the differences are negligible. Try racing on a track with a lot of elevation changes and you'll definitely feel the difference (the Nordschleife, especially the Karussell corner comes to mind).

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2337907)

I just think this forum has had enough 5.0 comparos it can handle. They are different cars for different people. A small crew of mustang lovers seem to keep that flame going. The sad part it's the Z owners on there own forum being defensive against 5.0 lovers.

There's a mustang forum for that shyt. Besides, up until there sports car dry up of 96. Not many would have ever made this comparo. It was only because of the only two affordable $25,000 cars that existed with a lot of power between 2002-2008 were the mustang and Z. The cars were totally different and still are. But when those are your only two affordable powerful choices, they are force comparo'd. Now it's a price comparo of which is better. I just laugh how mustang lovers here don't entertain other muscle cars to compare themselves in the other vehicles section. It has to be the Z. I guess there's more security in making that comparo when the Z has a 100hp deficit that will keep it out of the loop in some situations.

In reality, it's a comparo of which one will suit your needs. Not which one is better... Somehow some of you blur the lines of philosophy to make weak points. Somehow some of you think flow charts, graphs and eloquent word play will prove a point that doesn't even need to be proven IN A Z FORUM

The discussions always start the same way. A NEWBIE makes a thread identical to this one comparing Z's and mustangs. Z owners show their bias toward the Z. And the usual suspects make the same thread they been making since they traded for a mustang or those who are just hating there Z purchase supporting the mustang crew entertaining the same thoughts. :yawn:

If passion reigns that high for the mustang, then that passion should be shared with those equally passionate. At the mustang forum.

You say it's us Z owners that get upset??? You really need to read this thread carefully.

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2337853)

IRS is a superior framework that allows for superior designs...it doesn't guarantee them.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2337907)

I just think this forum has had enough 5.0 comparos it can handle. They are different cars for different people. A small crew of mustang lovers seem to keep that flame going. The sad part it's the Z owners on there own forum being defensive against 5.0 lovers.

There's a mustang forum for that shyt. Besides, up until the sports car dry up of 96. Not many would have ever made this comparo. It was only because of the only two affordable $25,000 cars that existed with a lot of power between 2002-2008 were the mustang and Z. The cars were totally different and still are. But when those are your only two affordable powerful choices, they are force comparo'd. Now it's a price comparo of which is better. I just laugh how mustang lovers here don't entertain other muscle cars to compare themselves in the other vehicles section. It has to be the Z. I guess there's more security in making that comparo when the Z has a 100hp deficit that will keep it out of the loop in some situations.

In reality, it's a comparo of which one will suit your needs. Not which one is better... Somehow some of you blur the lines of philosophy to make weak points. Somehow some of you think flow charts, graphs and eloquent word play will prove a point that doesn't even need to be proven IN A Z FORUM

The discussions always start the same way. A NEWBIE makes a thread identical to this one comparing Z's and mustangs. Z owners show their bias toward the Z. And the usual suspects make the same thread they been making since they traded for a mustang or those who are just hating there Z purchase supporting the mustang crew entertaining the same thoughts. :yawn:

If passion reigns that high for the mustang, then that passion should be shared with those equally passionate. At the mustang forum.

You say it's us Z owners that get upset??? You really need to read this thread carefully.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2337919)

This is usually how these threads go down:

1. OP asks Z vs. Mustang?

2. Some Z owner bashes Mustang, say something factually incorrect

3. Said Z owner gets called out and corrected

4. Butthurt ensues

5. Steve makes ghey joke

6. Nobody comes to Steve's BBQ
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2337924)

ftfy

Originally Posted by JohnYu (Post 2337928)

Haha , I think I am going to keep the nismo , but my driving skill Is terrible ..

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2337926)

:crying:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2337931)

step 7: Steve buys a new car after being left alone briefly