370z is aesthetically a masterpiece

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2013, 10:39 AM

Chris cares more about driving fun than anything else, so I can see where he'd like the FRS more. You can push the hell out of that car in relative safety on the road!

I know when my S2K was on horribad all season tires it was SO much fun because it had NO grip at all. Trying to keep up with RandyD's 370 on Super Sports was a lot of fun because I was sliding all over the place at a relatively modest pace.

ZMan8 · 03-26-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Chris cares more about driving fun than anything else, so I can see where he'd like the FRS more. You can push the hell out of that car in relative safety on the road!

I know when my S2K was on horribad all season tires it was SO much fun because it had NO grip at all. Trying to keep up with RandyD's 370 on Super Sports was a lot of fun because I was sliding all over the place at a relatively modest pace.

the top gear argument right there for fun. high hp sports/exotics are great, but you really can't enjoy them for what they are while obeying the law.

small hp, light weight cars you can be legal and having fun.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Chris cares more about driving fun than anything else, so I can see where he'd like the FRS more. You can push the hell out of that car in relative safety on the road!

I know when my S2K was on horribad all season tires it was SO much fun because it had NO grip at all. Trying to keep up with RandyD's 370 on Super Sports was a lot of fun because I was sliding all over the place at a relatively modest pace.

Want the Z to be more fun? Buy 17 inch, 7f/8r wide all season wheel/tires and turn vdc off.

See if the Z doesn't throw its back out for everything.

I been inside an FRS and the cockpit is the dullest thing in the world. When you're not pushing the limits. The cockpit and commuter level power will put you to sleep for sure.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Want the Z to be more fun? Buy 17 inch, 7f/8r wide all season wheel/tires and turn vdc off.

See if the Z doesn't throw its back out for everything.

I been inside an FRS and the cockpit is the dullest thing in the world. When you're not pushing the limits. The cockpit and commuter level power will put you to sleep for sure.

But then again I think that's the point of that car too. It's docile when you want it to be. Fling it around on some back roads, though, and it's very lively (although not fast).

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2013, 11:23 AM

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But then again I think that's the point of that car too. It's docile when you want it to be. Fling it around on some back roads, though, and it's very lively (although not fast).

I get it. Just not a fan. Wait... What really makes me not a fan is I cant understand how this car doesn't top out at $25,000??? $5,000 you're paying in RWD tax. lol. No thanks. This thing should start @ $22,000 and top out at $25,000. It doesn't deserve to be $3,000 under the Z even when fully loaded.

That was the original marketing price they set. And if they would have stuck by it. I wouldn't have anything to say. But $30,000 for this loaded is laughable... Honestly. Especially considering loaded means you have a screen and leather?

I don't have a problem with paying for performance when the price matches the performance. The BRZ/FRS doesn't make a case of justifying the price.

Red__Zed · 03-26-2013, 11:25 AM

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I get it. Just not a fan. Wait... What really makes me not a fan is I cant understand how this car doesn't top out at $25,000??? $5,000 you're paying in RWD tax. lol. No thanks. This thing should start @ $22,000 and top out at $25,000. It doesn't deserve to be $3,000 under the Z even when fully loaded.

That was the original marketing price they set. And if they would have stuck by it. I wouldn't have anything to say. But $30,000 for this loaded is laughable... Honestly. Especially considering loaded means you have a screen and leather?

I don't have a problem with paying for performance when the price matches the performance. The BRZ/FRS doesn't make a case of justifying the price.

Frankly, they jumped the price because Nissan let them.

cheshirecat · 03-26-2013, 11:51 AM

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I don't have a problem with paying for performance when the price matches the performance. The BRZ/FRS doesn't make a case of justifying the price.

I agree, but unfortunately the market determines the price.

If they could sell the car for $60k and still have it sell, they would. Of course, it's nowhere worth that, but worth is judged in the eyes of the buyer.

It seems they're selling pretty well at this price point, so there's really no reason to alter the price (if not move it upward).

It's the same thing with Porches- they're not worth the money in terms of cost to the manufacturer. Porsche makes insane profit on their vehicles. It doesn't matter, though... people keep paying out the *** for it.

I'm glad Nissan decided to go the bang-for-your-buck route. That's something I can always get behind.

lemon-fresh · 03-26-2013, 11:30 AM

Wow, this thread is a refreshing change of pace. I'm likely just parroting what others have said but the Z package of killer good looks, handling and speed is still hard to beat at its current price point.

Makes me really excited to see what happens in 2015. Rumors of American car manufacturers looking to cut weight and sleeker looking concept cars means there may be hope for Z like looks and handling with even more power. Maybe this competition will make Nissan wake the **** up and release a 3.0TT Z, one can dream.

kfull · 03-26-2013, 11:38 AM

Is it pretty much a sure thing that a new z will be out in 2015? Or is it just a rumor? Havent been up on Nissan news lately.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2013, 11:45 AM

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Wow, this thread is a refreshing change of pace. I'm likely just parroting what others have said but the Z package of killer good looks, handling and speed is still hard to beat at its current price point.

Makes me really excited to see what happens in 2015. Rumors of American car manufacturers looking to cut weight and sleeker looking concept cars means there may be hope for Z like looks and handling with even more power. Maybe this competition will make Nissan wake the **** up and release a 3.0TT Z, one can dream.

The American cars already handle better than the Z. Now they are fixing the looks. WIN!

Nissan needs to fix their car's performance, but I hope they leave the looks alone. It's already sexy.

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