Thinking about selling the Z

USAF_troop · 02-08-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

well im looking something DD, semi roomy, cheap to make fast for DD(thats where the factory turbo option comes in) and something i can just take to the track occasionally(like once every few months), not to be the fastest person out there but just something to have fun in

oh and i want some luxuries like a sunroof, leather seats, and something i can take off road occasionally(i have had to take my Z off road before for work and it is probably one of the scariest things i have done)

honestly i wish i could afford paying 2 car payments but at 19 i cant
if i bought outright thats another story but then im looking at older cars, and realistically i could afford a honda civic or something but i dont want a honda

if i could keep my Z i would turn it into a 100% track car but unfortunately its either keep it and start to hate the car slowly(like the blind spots are getting on my nerves and i hate the ride quality, its just too stiff for street driving), or sell it and get something better suited for DD

08' 335i, done.

Leuz · 02-07-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

is it any good?

I havent heard much about the focus besides its a good econobox

any real difference between that and the MS3?

I can't really tell sorry. My coworker just got an ST but haven't driven it yet, soon hopefully.

cossie1600 · 02-07-2013, 12:28 AM

Beetle Turbo fits your bill

danegrey · 02-07-2013, 04:37 AM

understand the feeling for a period of time, I was always trading out cars every 2 years, it wasn't until the last 8 that I settled down.

go for something fun and you like, as long as you drive that hard too

glockman · 02-07-2013, 08:18 PM

i traded in a 2012 juke awd in on my 2010 Z roadster because i wanted a fun car ,the juke was ok it was my wifes car,but nothing like the Z. i have a 2011 kia sportage sx turbo niether the juke or the kia witch is faster will come close to the .z

Z-Girl 12 · 02-07-2013, 08:42 PM

Wow...

Z_ealot · 02-07-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

Wow...

what she said lol....seriously though i do not understand how the Z is not a fun car to drive, i mean sure it has tons of grip through the turns, but it's not impossible to swing the tail out and get a little sideways as long as thats at the track and honestly if OP is looking for a car that is easier to drift i would be worried about anybody else driving remotely close to him

LMBmikeZ · 02-07-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

hhhmmm, i didnt know that about the STi, i know some people with STi conversions but no one with a real STi

im just bored of my car if that makes any sense, its not really fun to drive any more, too much grip imo(which is good if i went to the track every weekend, but i dont so its boring)
its like james may said, the fun begins when the grip starts to end

well i love the look of the old 2G eclipse, heck i use to own a 2G GST before i bought my Z, plus its AWD turbo and it uses the same engine as the EVO 8 and 9

Two things

1- turn your VDC off and try to drive it, better yet get a real tune to disable the brake booster which also prevents you from doing a stand still burn out!

2- stop driving like grandma

the Z is a great drive

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg

If you turn off vdc and go WOT mid turn then the back will slide out nicely

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

what she said lol....seriously though i do not understand how the Z is not a fun car to drive, i mean sure it has tons of grip through the turns, but it's not impossible to swing the tail out and get a little sideways as long as thats at the track and honestly if OP is looking for a car that is easier to drift i would be worried about anybody else driving remotely close to him

The Z is an easy car to have the aZZ kick out just got give it the right touch

bfowlzr33 · 02-08-2013, 10:17 AM

get a civic si drrrr lmao but seriously bro you should keep the z, youll regret getting rid of it. either way good luck

3.7 ZPA · 02-08-2013, 11:10 AM

The Z is TOO grippy? What do you think an Evo or STi are going to be? I like both cars, but if someone were to ask for a straight up trade for my Z? Hell no. I like the Z for everything that it is...however, if you're bored I say go for an STi or Evo. A GSX will probably be more trouble than it's worth.

luigi90210 · 02-08-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

the juke is waaaaayyy more fun than you guys give it credit for. It's VERY torquey. Has more torque feel than the Z. it's slower but fun. That engine is easy to mod as well. not looking at it from the stock standpoint but from a tuner standpoint. The juke will give you cheaper mod access and it truly is a fun car. I've driven the AWD version. I like a lot.

THIS
i test drove a juke today and it was fun, a bit too high for my taste but nothing some coilovers couldnt fix
i only wish it came in a manual AWD, the CVT is nice, but i love driving manual too much lol

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The interior does suck, but I never had one issue with mine. Most of the STI owners I know have had zero problems as well. Although, he's considering a DSM. Reliabilty may not be at the top of his priority list. Personally, if I'm the OP I'd keep the Z for a few years and see what's on the market then.

interior is something i dont really care about, but after reading about ringland issues with the new WRX/STi, subaru is officially off my list and in my experience my old DSM was reliable, just have to keep up with maintenance thats all plus the EVO(except the EVO X) uses the same engine as the turbo eclipse does(4G63T FTW)

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Originally Posted by edub370

too much grip... yet wants awd platform?

all cars u listed have TERRIBLE interiors.... u are bored and u want a freaking juke??

dude were u high when u made this

the Z is only fun when being taken to high speeds around curvy roads or on a track, if i went to the track often i wouldnt be complaining but i dont and honestly i want a car thats a fun street car
just driving my brothers turbo eclipse(my old DSM) is a blast around town and im not sure why it is like that but its just more fun then driving the Z around

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Originally Posted by 3.7 ZPA

The Z is TOO grippy? What do you think an Evo or STi are going to be? I like both cars, but if someone were to ask for a straight up trade for my Z? Hell no. I like the Z for everything that it is...however, if you're bored I say go for an STi or Evo. A GSX will probably be more trouble than it's worth.

i would never straight up trade my Z for an Evo, i would sell it and use the money to buy an Evo(seeing as Evo 9s are about 18K used)
i use to own a DSM so i know what it entails but if taken care of properly, they can be just as reliable as nissans can

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-08-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

THIS
i test drove a juke today and it was fun, a bit too high for my taste but nothing some coilovers couldnt fix
i only wish it came in a manual AWD, the CVT is nice, but i love driving manual too much lol

Coilovers drop it 3". FWD manual only does suck

interior is something i dont really care about, but after reading about ringland issues with the new WRX/STi, subaru is officially off my list and in my experience my old DSM was reliable, just have to keep up with maintenance thats all plus the EVO(except the EVO X) uses the same engine as the turbo eclipse does(4G63T FTW)

the Z is only fun when being taken to high speeds around curvy roads or on a track, if i went to the track often i wouldnt be complaining but i dont and honestly i want a car thats a fun street car
just driving my brothers turbo eclipse(my old DSM) is a blast around town and im not sure why it is like that but its just more fun then driving the Z around

Dude the z is fun even on the street. Main problem is. to make it fun, you waist gas driving around cruising at 3500-4000rpm

i would never straight up trade my Z for an Evo, i would sell it and use the money to buy an Evo(seeing as Evo 9s are about 18K used)
i use to own a DSM so i know what it entails but if taken care of properly, they can be just as reliable as nissans can

Evo's are fun too.

Dude keep the Z though. Pay it off or see what the Z35 brings. Or pay it off then add a juke.

Chuck33079 · 02-08-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

interior is something i dont really care about, but after reading about ringland issues with the new WRX/STi, subaru is officially off my list

90% of the time Subaru ringland failures are caused by people slapping an intake and/or exhaust on the car without tuning for it. If you're ok with 325-350 whp, go with the Subaru. It'll run forever with a good tune. If you plan on going bigger, get the Evo or plan on building a motor.

luigi90210 · 02-08-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

90% of the time Subaru ringland failures are caused by people slapping an intake and/or exhaust on the car without tuning for it. If you're ok with 325-350 whp, go with the Subaru. It'll run forever with a good tune. If you plan on going bigger, get the Evo or plan on building a motor.

i hear that a tune can prevent ringland failures but i have read cases about it happening to 100% stock cars and how subaru went to great lengths to research the owners interests(the one story that stood out to me the most was that subaru denied a warranty claim for ringland failures on a 100% stock car all because the owner liked to watch the rallycross X Games event and he "might" have over reved it to cause the failure) plus the only way to avoid ringland failures is to go aftermarket and if you do that, your warranty is as good as gone

not that Mitsubishi's warranty is any better but i would rather have a lack of warranty then having warranty but being denied a claim all because the manufacture things you "might" have done something

@KenChan
my definition of good money probably isnt the same as your definition of good money, im making good money for a 19 year old(about 3k/month) and right now most of that money is being dumped into insurance($2500/6 months) for my car, car payments(about $600) and rent(about $1200)
the rest goes into eating, gas, and other misc items
i dont really have any extra money to spend so another car payment isnt out of the question if i get a turbo 4banger, i can buy outright but im not going to buy a honda or some other cheap beater car/rice rocket(which is all i can really afford to buy outright) and on top of it have insurance go up on me...

please dont say what i can and cant afford without knowing my financial situation first, its kind of rude...

@everyone else, i appreciate your opinions on the matter, i know this is a Z forum so i expect everyone to be bias towards the Z(heck i am bias sometimes as well) but i also want some real opinions on the matter
thanks

MMC Racing · 02-08-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

@KenChan
my definition of good money probably isnt the same as your definition of good money, im making good money for a 19 year old(about 3k/month) and right now most of that money is being dumped into insurance($2500/6 months) for my car, car payments(about $600) and rent(about $1200)
the rest goes into eating, gas, and other misc items
i dont really have any extra money to spend so another car payment isnt out of the question if i get a turbo 4banger, i can buy outright but im not going to buy a honda or some other cheap beater car/rice rocket(which is all i can really afford to buy outright) and on top of it have insurance go up on me...

please dont say what i can and cant afford without knowing my financial situation first, its kind of rude...

You are making the classic younger person mistake of car hopping. Even if you hop to a cheaper car, you won't be happy and hop again. You are making peanuts for living in the San Diego area, so take some advice and think really hard about the financial impact of your decisions.

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bfowlzr33 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Age: 35 Posts: 150 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 14	get a civic si drrrr lmao but seriously bro you should keep the z, youll regret getting rid of it. either way good luck __________________ 07 TITAN CC OFFROAD PKG 06 Mustang GT 5MT 01 Audi TT ABT 6MT

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3.7 ZPA Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 352 Drives: '09 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 14	The Z is TOO grippy? What do you think an Evo or STi are going to be? I like both cars, but if someone were to ask for a straight up trade for my Z? Hell no. I like the Z for everything that it is...however, if you're bored I say go for an STi or Evo. A GSX will probably be more trouble than it's worth. bmarcinczyk14 likes this.

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