Dream car as my first MT?

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The z isn't bad but, when people start gassing it up. I can think of 10 better manuals by far...

In a perfect world, all manual transmissions would be identical to the mkIV supra getrag.

JungleZ · 02-01-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z is barely acceptable in the shift quality dept. Drive a mazda if you want to feel a good shifter on a cheap car.

Yup not even close to acceptable, if anyone has driven a type r, prelude, s2000 now that's what you call shifting

xxAGAVExx · 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM

This car was my very first manual. Don't regret it one bit. 1st gear is a little short, but after I installed my intakes it's a lot more fun to drive and I don't mind the short 1st as much since the engine sounds and feels better.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Yup not even close to acceptable, if anyone has driven a type r, prelude, s2000 now that's what you call shifting

Hey, we can argue about transmissions forever, but at the end of the day we're just comparing which stick feels best in our hand.

Hookah · 02-01-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Hey, we can argue about transmissions forever, but at the end of the day we're just comparing which stick feels best in our hand.

LOL

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 01:25 PM

The Z shifter is directly connected to the tranny, right? It seems like we keep comparing it to cable shifters.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The Z shifter is directly connected to the tranny, right? It seems like we keep comparing it to cable shifters.

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 01:29 PM

That's a really cool cutaway. Does the Z have a valve in the clutch line to slow down the engagement?

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:34 PM

I don't think so. I don't remember seeing one but it's been forever since I've been under a 370.

Hookah · 02-01-2013, 01:35 PM

Things you can learn in this forum... Always impressive...

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:42 PM

Here is a photo of TR6060 and MT82 (GT500 and 5.0, respectively).

The Z has sort of a hybrid linkage. The good thing about it is that it's directly connected to the transmission, so the engine torquing won't have an effect on the linkage.

On the MT82, the shifter is mounted to the body. With the stock vibration dampening (i.e. soft, compliant) bushings, engine torque can shift the linkage juuuust enough to make the shift action inconsistent under heavy load. The MT82 would have been a great transmission if they left well enough alone and mounted the shifter to the case instead of the car.

And below you will see... perfection! The Aisin unit in the S2000.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:52 PM

While we are at it here is the Corvette. I think this is a C5.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-01-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Yup not even close to acceptable, if anyone has driven a type r, prelude, s2000 now that's what you call shifting

You left out Miata/Rx8. they shift mad smooth

forza370z · 02-01-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You left out Miata/Rx8. they shift mad smooth

VW GTI and Audi A4 too.

ayrton88 · 02-01-2013, 04:54 PM

I agree with what was said earlier. If you are even thinking of getting the manual, go with it. It will always bother you wondering how different it would be with the third pedal. Much more involving in my opinion. Experience will come quickly. Don't worry about traffic. I drive in rush hour in Chicago all the time and actually prefer the stick. Takes away the boredom of stop and go since you have something to do.

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	The Z shifter is directly connected to the tranny, right? It seems like we keep comparing it to cable shifters. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-01-2013, 01:29 PM	#68 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	That's a really cool cutaway. Does the Z have a valve in the clutch line to slow down the engagement? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I don't think so. I don't remember seeing one but it's been forever since I've been under a 370. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-01-2013, 01:42 PM	#71 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Here is a photo of TR6060 and MT82 (GT500 and 5.0, respectively). The Z has sort of a hybrid linkage. The good thing about it is that it's directly connected to the transmission, so the engine torquing won't have an effect on the linkage. On the MT82, the shifter is mounted to the body. With the stock vibration dampening (i.e. soft, compliant) bushings, engine torque can shift the linkage juuuust enough to make the shift action inconsistent under heavy load. The MT82 would have been a great transmission if they left well enough alone and mounted the shifter to the case instead of the car. And below you will see... perfection! The Aisin unit in the S2000. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Hookah Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 34 Drives: 03 350z LS 6MT Rep Power: 12	Things you can learn in this forum... Always impressive...

02-01-2013, 01:52 PM	#72 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	While we are at it here is the Corvette. I think this is a C5. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-01-2013, 04:54 PM	#75 (permalink)
ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	I agree with what was said earlier. If you are even thinking of getting the manual, go with it. It will always bother you wondering how different it would be with the third pedal. Much more involving in my opinion. Experience will come quickly. Don't worry about traffic. I drive in rush hour in Chicago all the time and actually prefer the stick. Takes away the boredom of stop and go since you have something to do.

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