Dream car as my first MT?

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-01-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Z MT is easy. Is it the most graceful clutch/shifter around? Hardly. But MT is MT. If you can drive one you can drive them all.

The Z is barely acceptable in the shift quality dept. Drive a mazda if you want to feel a good shifter on a cheap car.

Hookah · 02-01-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z is barely acceptable in the shift quality dept. Drive a mazda if you want to feel a good shifter on a cheap car.

My corolla shifted so smooth it felt like an automatic lol, doesn't mean it was fun. Z's have clunky MT's but it's sure as hell fun and nothing less.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z is barely acceptable in the shift quality dept. Drive a mazda if you want to feel a good shifter on a cheap car.

After driving the S2000 and a few Porsches I'm forever spoiled when it comes to the shift department.

I will say that while the Z is clunky, it's not as bad as many people try to say it is. Just like the MT82 in the Mustang, you need to take your time with it. Treat the transmission like a lady and it will reward you.

Now some of the old Tremec transmissions I've had could be bitch slapped around and they loved every minute of it.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-01-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

After driving the S2000 and a few Porsches I'm forever spoiled when it comes to the shift department.

I will say that while the Z is clunky, it's not as bad as many people try to say it is. Just like the MT82 in the Mustang, you need to take your time with it. Treat the transmission like a lady and it will reward you.

Now some of the old Tremec transmissions I've had could be bitch slapped around and they loved every minute of it.

The z isn't bad but, when people start gassing it up. I can think of 10 better manuals by far...

That said, there's nothing silkier than paddles...

ayrton88 · 02-01-2013, 04:54 PM

I agree with what was said earlier. If you are even thinking of getting the manual, go with it. It will always bother you wondering how different it would be with the third pedal. Much more involving in my opinion. Experience will come quickly. Don't worry about traffic. I drive in rush hour in Chicago all the time and actually prefer the stick. Takes away the boredom of stop and go since you have something to do.

Dwight Frye · 02-01-2013, 05:30 PM

Buy the manual. The first night home, sleep in the car. Bond with it. Be one with it. Get into the Zen of driving that particular Z with that particular clutch and transmission and engine. Shut off the stereo and your cell phone and listen to your car. It will speak to you in it's own language. Concentrate. It is not difficult. When you no longer think about what you are doing regarding operating the clutch, gas, brake and gear lever and it becomes an unconscious act, you will have achieved mastery of your machine.
If you over-think the procedure you will fail.

BeemaaZ · 02-01-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Buy the manual. The first night home, sleep in the car. Bond with it. Be one with it. Get into the Zen of driving that particular Z with that particular clutch and transmission and engine. Shut off the stereo and your cell phone and listen to your car. It will speak to you in it's own language. Concentrate. It is not difficult. When you no longer think about what you are doing regarding operating the clutch, gas, brake and gear lever and it becomes an unconscious act, you will have achieved mastery of your machine.
If you over-think the procedure you will fail.

Well said

Nailzs · 02-01-2013, 06:39 PM

I bought an automatic Z because I've owned a lot of manual cars that have clutches that can be adjusted so the clutch disengages at about half way down to the floorboard and you can slip the clutch before the engage/disengage. My past Chevy, Fords, and other manual cars I've owned would do just that. Not Nissan manuals, or at least the 4 I test drove.
They were on and off switches right at the top of the clutch peddle movement.
No slipping the clutch period. It reminded of the old headlight dimmer switch on the floor. Push it's high beam, push again it low beam. If not for the 7AT I probably wouldn't be driving a Z.

Ziggyman · 02-01-2013, 06:53 PM

Get the manual, its a sports car. I've been a big proponent of AT as they are the future. They shift faster and F1 has already converted, all good reasons!

In the end, its making the machine an extension of your brain. Think Ripley in the power loader ala Alien!

Sorrovv · 02-01-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Buy the manual. The first night home, sleep in the car. Bond with it. Be one with it. Get into the Zen of driving that particular Z with that particular clutch and transmission and engine. Shut off the stereo and your cell phone and listen to your car. It will speak to you in it's own language. Concentrate. It is not difficult. When you no longer think about what you are doing regarding operating the clutch, gas, brake and gear lever and it becomes an unconscious act, you will have achieved mastery of your machine.
If you over-think the procedure you will fail.

I drove the 6MT tonight and it is settled! I have a smile so large it doesn't fit on my face. We hit Alpharetta Highway in Roswell, GA during rush hour and I had no problem whatsoever. 1st is really short, 2nd is a tough shift as it seems jerky, but it is probably due to my ineptitude. It's really hard to stall this car.

One thing I failed to take note of is that people treat you differently when you are driving the sexiest thing they have seen that day. I spent an hour and a half in traffic on my way to the dealership, no one cares about your Mazda3. But once I got in that Z, it was like the seas parted - everyone wanted to open up a spot for me!

I am resolved to bond with this car as you so eloquently described, and drive it with passion until my fun days are numbered.

So many have contributed to my decision through this thread (taking both sides), and I am very grateful! All of it has helped me put things into perspective. I feel much more confident now.

Looking forward to adding some pics of my shiny new Z soon!

Maybe tomorrow...

forza370z · 02-01-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorrovv

I drove the 6MT tonight and it is settled! I have a smile so large it doesn't fit on my face. We hit Alpharetta Highway in Roswell, GA during rush hour and I had no problem whatsoever. 1st is really short, 2nd is a tough shift as it seems jerky, but it is probably due to my ineptitude. It's really hard to stall this car.

One thing I failed to take note of is that people treat you differently when you are driving the sexiest thing they have seen that day. I spent an hour and a half in traffic on my way to the dealership, no one cares about your Mazda3. But once I got in that Z, it was like the seas parted - everyone wanted to open up a spot for me!

I am resolved to bond with this car as you so eloquently described, and drive it with passion until my fun days are numbered.

So many have contributed to my decision through this thread (taking both sides), and I am very grateful! All of it has helped me put things into perspective. I feel much more confident now.

Looking forward to adding some pics of my shiny new Z soon!

Maybe tomorrow...

Cuz our Z = GET DA F**K OUT OF MY WAY!

Hookah · 02-02-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorrovv

I drove the 6MT tonight and it is settled! I have a smile so large it doesn't fit on my face. We hit Alpharetta Highway in Roswell, GA during rush hour and I had no problem whatsoever. 1st is really short, 2nd is a tough shift as it seems jerky, but it is probably due to my ineptitude. It's really hard to stall this car.

One thing I failed to take note of is that people treat you differently when you are driving the sexiest thing they have seen that day. I spent an hour and a half in traffic on my way to the dealership, no one cares about your Mazda3. But once I got in that Z, it was like the seas parted - everyone wanted to open up a spot for me!

I am resolved to bond with this car as you so eloquently described, and drive it with passion until my fun days are numbered.

So many have contributed to my decision through this thread (taking both sides), and I am very grateful! All of it has helped me put things into perspective. I feel much more confident now.

Looking forward to adding some pics of my shiny new Z soon!

Maybe tomorrow...

Well, congratulations man! Keep us all updated

Projects · 02-01-2013, 11:17 AM

I never drove a car with a manual before but decided to get mine with a MT anyways. Family all had automatics.

Just took a few days of driving around side streets to get a feel for it. I enjoy the shifting more compared to the AT in my daily not to say that either way is just fine.

JungleZ · 02-01-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z is barely acceptable in the shift quality dept. Drive a mazda if you want to feel a good shifter on a cheap car.

Yup not even close to acceptable, if anyone has driven a type r, prelude, s2000 now that's what you call shifting

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Yup not even close to acceptable, if anyone has driven a type r, prelude, s2000 now that's what you call shifting

Hey, we can argue about transmissions forever, but at the end of the day we're just comparing which stick feels best in our hand.

02-01-2013, 05:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 17	Buy the manual. The first night home, sleep in the car. Bond with it. Be one with it. Get into the Zen of driving that particular Z with that particular clutch and transmission and engine. Shut off the stereo and your cell phone and listen to your car. It will speak to you in it's own language. Concentrate. It is not difficult. When you no longer think about what you are doing regarding operating the clutch, gas, brake and gear lever and it becomes an unconscious act, you will have achieved mastery of your machine. If you over-think the procedure you will fail. cv129, Hookah, Dlm6568 and 1 others like this.

02-01-2013, 11:17 AM	#13 (permalink)
Projects Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nebraska Posts: 13 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 15	I never drove a car with a manual before but decided to get mine with a MT anyways. Family all had automatics. Just took a few days of driving around side streets to get a feel for it. I enjoy the shifting more compared to the AT in my daily not to say that either way is just fine. m4a1mustang and Hookah like this.

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02-01-2013, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 16	I agree with what was said earlier. If you are even thinking of getting the manual, go with it. It will always bother you wondering how different it would be with the third pedal. Much more involving in my opinion. Experience will come quickly. Don't worry about traffic. I drive in rush hour in Chicago all the time and actually prefer the stick. Takes away the boredom of stop and go since you have something to do.

02-01-2013, 06:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nailzs Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 395 Drives: 13 370Z 7at Sp Tour Rep Power: 14	I bought an automatic Z because I've owned a lot of manual cars that have clutches that can be adjusted so the clutch disengages at about half way down to the floorboard and you can slip the clutch before the engage/disengage. My past Chevy, Fords, and other manual cars I've owned would do just that. Not Nissan manuals, or at least the 4 I test drove. They were on and off switches right at the top of the clutch peddle movement. No slipping the clutch period. It reminded of the old headlight dimmer switch on the floor. Push it's high beam, push again it low beam. If not for the 7AT I probably wouldn't be driving a Z.

02-01-2013, 06:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ziggyman Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: North Shore Posts: 176 Drives: 11 SR Tour/Sport MT Rep Power: 14	Get the manual, its a sports car. I've been a big proponent of AT as they are the future. They shift faster and F1 has already converted, all good reasons! In the end, its making the machine an extension of your brain. Think Ripley in the power loader ala Alien!