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Motor Trend 8/29/12 2012 370 Review

Originally Posted by Jordo! Actually, based on performance it's priced pretty much spot on. Handles better than the Camaro or Mustang and accelerates better than the Genesis, and is thus

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Old 08-29-2012, 03:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Actually, based on performance it's priced pretty much spot on. Handles better than the Camaro or Mustang and accelerates better than the Genesis, and is thus a bit more cash.

The BRZ/FR-S is hopelessly outclassed, except perhaps in "fun" (i.e., hype) factor.

The reviewer didn't like the amenities or the engine noise.

Whatever.

If the next version is more tossable and has equal or greater power at a lower weight and similar price point, it's a no-brainer for me on my next car.


price for performance, the z beats all those cars listed in my opinion. all i can agree with the article is that the interior seems a bit outdated. but the touring + nav options fill that void.
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price for performance, the z beats all those cars listed in my opinion. all i can agree with the article is that the interior seems a bit outdated. but the touring + nav options fill that void.
"outdated" interiors don't bother me. I've heard that said about the C6 Corvette and the FT86 twins, and I like the interiors of those and the Z. They are functional and not too badly laid out imo.
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If I were to do it all once again, I will once again choose the 370z over the mustang, camaro, genesis or Challenger. There is simply nothing like it on the road. Plus there are a few of them on the streets unlike the camaros and mustangs out there. I love this car and I would NOT EVEN compare the Toyobaru twins to the Z in this category. These cars are like teenybooper cars which kids just out of high school get their hands on. Once you are out of college and start making money on our own, then you upgrade to the Z
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One of the main reasons why I got a base + sport was because IMO I believe that 'sports cars' shouldn't need all the extra luxuries such as heated seats, navi, power seats, blue tooth, etc etc...just adds unwanted weight to the car. I have no interest in any of these things in a sports car. If I wanted all that stuff, I would get a G37.
Yep. If I want that, I drive my Altima-it has plenty of comfort goodies and decent MPG for the daily commute. When the weekend rolls around, my base Z meets my sports car needs just fine.
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The Z IS competing with the Z4 and the TT. Here in Germany the TTRS lost to a 370Z in a video comparison. Simple check of the article shows why the Z cost more than the others they mistakenly compare it to....chassis dynamics. Period.
In fact here in Germany the Z is known as the Japanese 911. The shape, the power etc.
MT has it wrong. Where in any literature is the Z remotely even trying to compete with those priced much less. That's an assumption they have ZERO proof off.
Since a TTRS is equipped with a 5 cyl turbo, base or otherwise the Z stands out with its lack of turbo and more torque, linear V6. Better brakes etc. To get a TTRS with comparable Z power you will pay much more. The article lacks rational analysis of the actual market the Z is in to begin with.
Well said. I Have been saying this for a long ttime. The z doesn't.compete with frs, Gen coupe, Stanford, camaro. No, it competes with 2 seat sports cars especially audit tt, bmwz4, Porsche Cayman. And the z is an outstanding value compared to those.

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this article convinces me more that MotorTrend really is in Toya/Baru's pocket... i still dont understand why they would include a toyabaru in their "world's greatest drag race" besides marketing... and this article further shows to me that they're simply doing the same thing...
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One of the main reasons why I got a base + sport was because IMO I believe that 'sports cars' shouldn't need all the extra luxuries such as heated seats, navi, power seats, blue tooth, etc etc...just adds unwanted weight to the car. I have no interest in any of these things in a sports car. If I wanted all that stuff, I would get a G37.
Different people have different needs, not to mention the Z isnt build specifically for tracking.

Can i live without the leather seats and other "luxury" options? Of course i can, but i wont mind them cause it is my daily driver and i wouldnt it being slightly more comfortable.

People also choose the Z over the g37 for a reason, simply put.. Its cause its a Z. The only thing i regret is not getting sports package, i got too impatient and went with the touring/base.
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I believe everything I read in car mags, so the 370z is the worst car ever produced.
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I agree with the reviewer on pretty much everything

I have the exact model he tested, apart from it being a 2011.

Reviewers are supposed to be nit picky though that's their job.

Base Stereo does suck (who keeps stock though replacing mine)
Buttons that are blank (Nissan was lazy on this part)
Sound of the engine (well yes does suck really) Don't think many keep
stock though, intakes/exhaust make the car come alive and sound is beautiful

The BRZ is nice but its not intimidating and like others say, 200hp is not much. The mustang is decent but honestly the only mustang id have is the Rousch one (convertible) or the Leguna Seca. The stang is definitely a comfortable car but its a boat.

He mentioned the Genesis, well the look has already been dated imo and well its a Hyundai (lol).

Does that make the Z the best choice? Hell ya. A couple mods and you have a best looking, best sounding car.
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One of the main reasons why I got a base + sport was because IMO I believe that 'sports cars' shouldn't need all the extra luxuries such as heated seats, navi, power seats, blue tooth, etc etc...just adds unwanted weight to the car. I have no interest in any of these things in a sports car. If I wanted all that stuff, I would get a G37.
That's why I got my Nismo. I have a g35 coupe too. But do I miss all the luxury features on the g35? Not really... The only thing I like my g over z is the stock exhaust note. The reviewer got this one right - 370z should sound sportier.

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Actually, based on performance it's priced pretty much spot on. Handles better than the Camaro or Mustang and accelerates better than the Genesis, and is thus a bit more cash.

The BRZ/FR-S is hopelessly outclassed, except perhaps in "fun" (i.e., hype) factor.

The reviewer didn't like the amenities or the engine noise.

Whatever.

If the next version is more tossable and has equal or greater power at a lower weight and similar price point, it's a no-brainer for me on my next car.
Speaking of fun factor, why they don't compare 370z with my mountain bike? It's fun as hell... just lacking of horsepower compare to the z... but much much cheaper...
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If it had 375hp and 300ft lbs from the factory, nothing else would matter.
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Nice numbers they got. Those 0-60 times are right on par with a SS and a 5.0. Oh and in the two years owning the car I have never inadvertently opened the console from a shift.
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Nice numbers they got. Those 0-60 times are right on par with a SS and a 5.0. Oh and in the two years owning the car I have never inadvertently opened the console from a shift.
same here man, don't know how this "reviewer" was shifting, but i have never ever opened up the center console from shifting through the gears...you'd have to be shifting like a retard to even accomplish that...on second thought the reviewer fits that bill nicely
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same here man, don't know how this "reviewer" was shifting, but i have never ever opened up the center console from shifting through the gears...you'd have to be shifting like a retard to even accomplish that...on second thought the reviewer fits that bill nicely
I must be a retard then, because I've done this a few times over the last couple months....and except for a one year blip of insanity where I owned an auto Acura TL I've been rowing my own exclusively for 20 years.

The button to open the center console is just where my elbow happens to come to a rest. I've modified my driving position a bit to accomodate it but I can't shorten or lengthen my arms.

All in all I think it was a relatively fair and positive review. I love my car and there are very few vehicles I would trade it for at the moment...but I wouldn't complain if Nissan lowered the price a bit due to it's lack of 'features'.
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