Which car would you pick?

evoAXE

Car and Driver says:

1: EVO
2: Mustang
3: 370z

lacarnut

I do not know what possessed me to buy a G37 sedan after driving (2) 350Z's for 6 years. There is no comparison in that car and a Z for handling and looks. I would not buy a BMW. Too many maintenance problems. A couple of years ago, BMW's and GM vehicles were neck and neck on vehicles declared lemons. I found the interior of the Ford as just plain butt ugly. The EVO would be my last pick.

I had more compliments on my Z than you could shake a stick at. It is a beautiful car that puts the others to shame. Ordered a 2013 Z a week ago.

frost

Brilliant.

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lacarnut

I do not know what possessed me to buy a G37 sedan after driving (2) 350Z's for 6 years. There is no comparison in that car and a Z for handling and looks. I would not buy a BMW. Too many maintenance problems. A couple of years ago, BMW's and GM vehicles were neck and neck on vehicles declared lemons. I found the interior of the Ford as just plain butt ugly. The EVO would be my last pick.

I had more compliments on my Z than you could shake a stick at. It is a beautiful car that puts the others to shame.

lacarnut

So what. One magazine rag voted the Volt car of the year. I quit subscribing to C & D because of stupidity like that

I do not like a boxy 4 door cars. Put the Z up against the EVO and see who wins in the looks department. The Z will beat the EVO hand downs.

You have posted the results of Car and Driver several times. You must have an inferiority complex about your car or are you just trying to be a smart @ss.

ZKraken22

370z is my DD. Im 23 tho i dont need 4 seats. i like having 2.

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danegrey

i looked at Mustang GT, put did not like the how if felt inside, too big imo
the others were not considered
bought the Z, for I have like the Z since I saw them in 70-71.
the current version, is what the 240z grew into...

Davey

Car and Driver?

Who cares what those idiots think. The car with all of the electronic gadgets that help it drive itself is the best handling car, OK.

And they said of the Mustang that you couldn't tell it was a live axle... The SRA is it's "best feature." Really? They complain about mid-corner bumps unsettling the Z, but the Mustang, you can't even tell it's a SRA?

But with the Mustang, even though the steering is fairly light (even in Sport mode) and has no feedback whatsoever, and any sort of mid-corner bump unsettles the 1950's suspension with a nice pogo-stick sidestep jump, it's still a great-handling car. What a bunch of clowns.

Really the Mustang is a decent handling car for a 3600 lbs muscle car with a solid rear axle but I want to know how much Ford paid Car & Driver for these glowing reviews that completely ignore or gloss over the shortcomings.

Zenki370

Maybe they used some of the left over 5.9 billion borrowed from the Gov't in 2009 to grease palms of the reviewers.

brucelidat

Isn't Ford the only who didn't get bailed out?

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Davey

Yes! And I think they make good cars. Don't get me wrong the Mustang is a great car and I'm not hating on it, but it's not a sports car, and doesn't drive like one.

brucelidat

I also think Ford is on the right path now. I am interested in the Focus hatch if/when I need a second practical car. Ford might be the only American brand I have any faith in and would buy. Not a fan of Chevy and Chrysler is a definite no go for me.

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Red__Zed

I always laugh when I see comments like this. You are like one of those wine experts who can "really tell" the difference in quality between that $5000 bottle of wine and the $100,000 bottle. Except I switched the labels

I won't deny that the rear end of the Mustang is prone to waft a bit at speed, but it is largely due to the underdamping. Honestly, anyone who claims they can feel the limitations of the SRA with the stock dampers is full of ****. There's no way you have such a discriminating *** that the subtle lateral movement is evident amongst the mud generated by the travesty of underdamping that is the rear of the car. You call out SRA because you are trained to, like when you are told your wine should have the scent of bananas, even though it doesn't


The reason that every set of objective reviewers that review the two cars back-to-back decides that the Mustang has a more settled rear end in corners is because IT DOES. This is confirmed subjectively and objectively by a host of reviews and measurements. Anyone with an internet warrior's handbook can call out SRA and think they've won, but if you take a deeper look, the ridiculously high rear rate and extreme toe change under compression gives the 370Z a looser backside than a gay hooker (OK, maybe not, but it is prone to coming unglued like a cheap Chinese iPhone) Can't drive with an objective backside? Hook the car up to anything that measures dynamic toe and let me know what you find. I found this quote from a very wise man:



But of course, let's take the approach that Ford had to pay for that finish. Had to sneak in to get their spot, despite laying the hottest lap time. Had Ford and Mitsu played fair, I bet the 370Z would be sitting on top the podium. Seems logical




[Somewhat in the defense of conspiracy theorist, I personally think C&D moved the Mustang & 370Z back in the rankings simply to give the appearance of being lap-time agnostic like they claimed...basically, they overcompensated to "prove" lap times didn't matter. But that is just my crazy theory]

kenchan

dang i'd pick the 370Z by now...

Zenki370

They accepted 5.9 Billion in 2009 as a loan.... even Nissan did like 1.something billion in 2009. PRobably why we got no oil coolers, fuel starvation and oil temps.