Next Gen Z will likely have smaller engine.

sfearl1 · 04-11-2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

What's up with all the people dissing on the 370z? I love my car! Yes the overheating oil thing pisses me off but that's really it. I'll fix that soon. Little bit snappy when you pitch it sideways but that can be fixed too. I'm pretty tall and really appreciate being able to fit into a rear wheel drive sports car. But I fit very nicely in the 240z too.

they're just jealous of the sexiness of the Z.

edit: removed brz/fr-s comment. wrong thread

TreeSemdyZee · 04-11-2012, 01:01 PM

If they're going to a smaller engine, I vote for a Formula 1 engine. They're only 2.4 liter.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-11-2012, 02:22 PM

Prediction:

3.0 v or inline 6 with turbo option.
NA will be 320hp with 290lb tq_ weight 2900lbs_ 0-60 in 5.0 sec 1/4 in 13.4
Turbo = 390hpwith 370lb tq_ weight 3100lbs_ 0-60 in 4.0sec 1/4 in 12.5
Redline 7800 for turbo and 7500NA
I'll take the turbo. Thanks

Nismo89 · 04-11-2012, 03:17 PM

well............... looks like im going to hold onto my 370z, 332hp , this gen Z (as a few have stated) would be come a collectible

brucelidat · 04-11-2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Prediction:

3.0 v or inline 6 with turbo option.
NA will be 320hp with 290lb tq_ weight 2900lbs_ 0-60 in 5.0 sec 1/4 in 13.4
Turbo = 390hpwith 370lb tq_ weight 3100lbs_ 0-60 in 4.0sec 1/4 in 12.5
Redline 7800 for turbo and 7500NA
I'll take the turbo. Thanks

In for factory turbo as well

Montez · 04-11-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhcoss

I don't think they need to make the car any smaller. It is already a small car. What they should do is take a good look at the design and shave weight any way they can. They should also continue to refine their 3.7 engine. I really hope they don't go to a smaller engine, its not like the current engine is overly large or anything.

The VQ has pretty much reached its end.......If you have driven a first gen 3.0 VQ that was in the 95 Maxima you would see why alot of these claims of harshness etc etc exist. It was buttery smooth etc etc then.

Nismo89 · 04-11-2012, 04:02 PM

AND make the "blindspot windows" actually visible.

brucelidat · 04-11-2012, 04:04 PM

doesn't need to be smaller, lighter would be nice though

kidkotic2001 · 04-11-2012, 07:27 PM

Smaller Engine means no deal for me. I am happy with my 09.

Zenki370 · 04-11-2012, 08:13 PM

If the car gets slower, this will be my last Z. In the 6 cars Ive owned in my life, each one has been quicker than the next one... and handled better as well. Must continue the trend unless I need a backseat.

sonic370 · 04-11-2012, 08:26 PM

have to disagree. next gen with have a 6 not a 8 i wish..
but it will have more HP not by much but a little...

most major upgrades imho will be inside and outside...

imo for better or worse the z is to nissian
what the vette is to GM..

i would say the GT-R but it's priced out of the range of your average 2 seat
sports car. your average sports car guy can't afford.

daisuke149 · 04-11-2012, 08:32 PM

honestly, i dont care what type of engine it is..

only important thing is that the next generation is better in all regards than this. In the end, thats what matters... that its a good all round balanced car regardless of the motor type.

spearfish25 · 04-11-2012, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z

I would really like something the size of the cayman. The cayman and 911 looks so much leaner and not as bloated as the z. I would also like a much smaller gtr.

I have to agree. While I love the Z's styling, the one aspect that will make it look dated in the future is the proportions in the rear. A lower, less bulbous rear profile will be 'next gen'. Too much junk in her trunk...and that's coming from an a$$ man

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brucelidat · 04-11-2012, 09:58 PM

I also don't care about engine size as long as it performs better. A factory turbo would be great, though for fuel economy vs a v8. Also, can probably squeeze more power out of turbos with a tune or upgrade turbos a supposed to have to turbo a NA engine.

alcheng · 04-11-2012, 10:20 PM

I would agree the trend in the industry nowadays is going for fuel efficiency not displacement, however, it doesn't mean they have to bring down the horsepower.

Bigger engine also cost some issues such as weight and actual cost to produce and technical difficulties.

It won't be surprised to see the next gen of engine goes smaller in displacement but using Force Induction to add horsepower, in that way, it gives more flexibilities to the manufacture to tune/adjust the power output.

It is very effective on cost control, engine development and also, for the owner to mod the engine.

In the other thread, there is the talk about the technology sharing between Mercedes and Nissan/Renault, Nissan might also look at the supercharger technology being used by Mercedes, as an option.

As a personal opinion, I don't see the next gen of Z will have a lowered horsepower, but a smaller displacement engine is possible, since the current VQ is already 3.7l, and most likely Nissan will have a brand new engine for their fleet, increase on displacement is unlikely since it would sounds like a bigger VQ, even if that's the case, it is rare to develop a 6cyl/3.9-4.0, and to develop an 8cyl is against the trend (fuel economy, cost, etc etc...)

It would be nice to see the next Z mounted with a 6cyl/3.0 turbo/supercharger that produce 375-385 horses. The engine is more compact, more power, more fuel efficiency, the cost of maintenance is low, and it is easy to mod when compare to a larger displacement N/A engine.

In fact, Nissan already has a monster 6cyl/3.8l-turbo charged engine on hand, the GT-R engine, they could derive this engine to a smaller displacement, different ECU mapping, and use it on the Nissan/Infiniti line-up.

Sorry for the long post but I am looking forward to see the next gen of Nissan engine.

04-11-2012, 03:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
Nismo89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Colora, MD Age: 34 Posts: 15,831 Drives: daily Zen and woosah Rep Power: 37386	well............... looks like im going to hold onto my 370z, 332hp , this gen Z (as a few have stated) would be come a collectible __________________ Why yes.. Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs, The Ford Commericals,Deadliest Catch.. is my cousin. Facebook i outta back hand you with my right hand! and call you b*tch!..... and im Left handed!

04-11-2012, 04:02 PM	#37 (permalink)
Nismo89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Colora, MD Age: 34 Posts: 15,831 Drives: daily Zen and woosah Rep Power: 37386	AND make the "blindspot windows" actually visible. __________________ Why yes.. Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs, The Ford Commericals,Deadliest Catch.. is my cousin. Facebook i outta back hand you with my right hand! and call you b*tch!..... and im Left handed!

04-11-2012, 04:04 PM	#38 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	doesn't need to be smaller, lighter would be nice though __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-11-2012, 07:27 PM	#39 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 15	Smaller Engine means no deal for me. I am happy with my 09. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt

04-11-2012, 09:58 PM	#44 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I also don't care about engine size as long as it performs better. A factory turbo would be great, though for fuel economy vs a v8. Also, can probably squeeze more power out of turbos with a tune or upgrade turbos a supposed to have to turbo a NA engine. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-11-2012, 01:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,883 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	If they're going to a smaller engine, I vote for a Formula 1 engine. They're only 2.4 liter.

04-11-2012, 02:22 PM	#33 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Prediction: 3.0 v or inline 6 with turbo option. NA will be 320hp with 290lb tq_ weight 2900lbs_ 0-60 in 5.0 sec 1/4 in 13.4 Turbo = 390hpwith 370lb tq_ weight 3100lbs_ 0-60 in 4.0sec 1/4 in 12.5 Redline 7800 for turbo and 7500NA I'll take the turbo. Thanks

04-11-2012, 08:13 PM	#40 (permalink)
Zenki370 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 226 Drives: 98 Civic, 09 370z Rep Power: 13	If the car gets slower, this will be my last Z. In the 6 cars Ive owned in my life, each one has been quicker than the next one... and handled better as well. Must continue the trend unless I need a backseat.

04-11-2012, 08:26 PM	#41 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	have to disagree. next gen with have a 6 not a 8 i wish.. but it will have more HP not by much but a little... most major upgrades imho will be inside and outside... imo for better or worse the z is to nissian what the vette is to GM.. i would say the GT-R but it's priced out of the range of your average 2 seat sports car. your average sports car guy can't afford.

04-11-2012, 08:32 PM	#42 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	honestly, i dont care what type of engine it is.. only important thing is that the next generation is better in all regards than this. In the end, thats what matters... that its a good all round balanced car regardless of the motor type.

04-11-2012, 10:20 PM	#45 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,893 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418352	I would agree the trend in the industry nowadays is going for fuel efficiency not displacement, however, it doesn't mean they have to bring down the horsepower. Bigger engine also cost some issues such as weight and actual cost to produce and technical difficulties. It won't be surprised to see the next gen of engine goes smaller in displacement but using Force Induction to add horsepower, in that way, it gives more flexibilities to the manufacture to tune/adjust the power output. It is very effective on cost control, engine development and also, for the owner to mod the engine. In the other thread, there is the talk about the technology sharing between Mercedes and Nissan/Renault, Nissan might also look at the supercharger technology being used by Mercedes, as an option. As a personal opinion, I don't see the next gen of Z will have a lowered horsepower, but a smaller displacement engine is possible, since the current VQ is already 3.7l, and most likely Nissan will have a brand new engine for their fleet, increase on displacement is unlikely since it would sounds like a bigger VQ, even if that's the case, it is rare to develop a 6cyl/3.9-4.0, and to develop an 8cyl is against the trend (fuel economy, cost, etc etc...) It would be nice to see the next Z mounted with a 6cyl/3.0 turbo/supercharger that produce 375-385 horses. The engine is more compact, more power, more fuel efficiency, the cost of maintenance is low, and it is easy to mod when compare to a larger displacement N/A engine. In fact, Nissan already has a monster 6cyl/3.8l-turbo charged engine on hand, the GT-R engine, they could derive this engine to a smaller displacement, different ECU mapping, and use it on the Nissan/Infiniti line-up. Sorry for the long post but I am looking forward to see the next gen of Nissan engine. Last edited by alcheng; 04-11-2012 at 10:23 PM.

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