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Originally Posted by slo True...but it's like the 370z nismo people, plenty of 370z's, but very rare to see a Nismo edition around. Just like with any other manufacturer, plenty

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Old 03-12-2012, 01:29 PM   #91 (permalink)
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True...but it's like the 370z nismo people, plenty of 370z's, but very rare to see a Nismo edition around.

Just like with any other manufacturer, plenty of 3 series around, but not many M3's. I don't notice regular 3 series...but I will notice an M3.
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Hmm... The ZL1 is growing one me...

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Point taken..... and agreed with to an extent. But you have to remember, there are plenty of things svtperformance and ls1tech and many other domestic forums laugh about with our cars among many other imports.

Every forum I have been on, if you win in a straight line, everyone applauds, then when you get beat, everyone gives the same old: Oh I will catch him in the turns, this isn't a straight line car.

I have my own reasons on why I would not own a ZL1, but it doesn't make it any less of a car just because I don't like or want it.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but just about all cars have an appeal for one reason or another. While looking for a replacement for my 135i, I looked at crew max Tundras, and down to the Hynundai veloster or whatever it's called, then everything in between within my price range. Ended up with a 370z haha.
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Point taken..... and agreed with to an extent. But you have to remember, there are plenty of things svtperformance and ls1tech and many other domestic forums laugh about with our cars among many other imports.

Every forum I have been on, if you win in a straight line, everyone applauds, then when you get beat, everyone gives the same old: Oh I will catch him in the turns, this isn't a straight line car.

I have my own reasons on why I would not own a ZL1, but it doesn't make it any less of a car just because I don't like or want it.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but just about all cars have an appeal for one reason or another. While looking for a replacement for my 135i, I looked at crew max Tundras, and down to the Hynundai veloster or whatever it's called, then everything in between within my price range. Ended up with a 370z haha.
Of course other cars have an appeal. I simply don't understand what it is with the new ZL1. The Corvette would be much more "lively/fun" (Grand Sport loaded out with MRC suspension), and the CTS-V would be much "nicer".

I bought the 370Z because I was tired of GM's interior. The Z06 was a fun car, but on "boring" drives, it was boring. On "boring" drives, my 370Z keeps me comfortable and entertained.
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People are raging about the Camaro even though it has the same engine, driveline, same suspension technology, etc. as the CTS-V, but check this out...







Which one of these interiors does NOT belong in a $60K car? Sadly...it's one of the one's in a $60K car...I think I see my former roommate's Cruze's steering wheel, btw...

That leather in the ZL1's seat? If it's anything like the leather in my Z06, and it looks like it is, I can tell you that that was one COLD cow. If it's vinyl (the corvette forum thinks its a hybrid of both--leather faced vinyl), it's a shameful man-made product.

Here is my driver's side seat after 3900 miles (I am 26, hit the gym, 5'10.5 and 185#, not some 320# old fat guy who taxes the seat on every entry/exit/long drive):

Passenger seat for comparison...


Chevrolet can build a smooth LOOKING interior, but touch on it for a minute and it starts to suck.

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But, the way I see it, a lot of people who buy the Camaro (no matter which one) aren't looking for something with a sleek, luxurious interior. The Camaro isn't really about that, am I right? No matter how much you pay for it.

In fact, I can kind of see a super sexy interior detracting from the Camaro. It just isn't that kind of car. To me at least. It's like wearing diamond earrings to the gym. Or... like Rambo running around in the jungle in a tux.

Flame on.
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But, the way I see it, a lot of people who buy the Camaro (no matter which one) aren't looking for something with a sleek, luxurious interior. The Camaro isn't really about that, am I right? No matter how much you pay for it.

In fact, I can kind of see a super sexy interior detracting from the Camaro. It just isn't that kind of car. To me at least. It's like wearing diamond earrings to the gym. Or... like Rambo running around in the jungle in a tux.

Flame on.
That's horrible reasoning. If you spent over 50 grand on ANY car, it better have a sexy interior. Very few can get away with having simple interiors and those are usually purpose built type cars like the Lotus Exige...and it does it to save weight. The Camaro has no excuse. It doesn't have a sexy interior because GM got lazy and they let the penny pinchers decide. Supposedly there will be huge changes to the C7 in the interior department, so it might trickle down to the Camaro. Not any time soon though.
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Nice discussion so far.... BTW, where is the OP of the thread???
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Let me list a few reasons why I'm trading in my Z. 1) I cannot track my Z vert. 2) I live only 90 minutes from Watkins Glen so track days are very easy for me to get to without having to get overnight accommodations. 3) The exterior styling of the ZL1 is great 4) I cannot finance my car plus save enough money to SC it also, so a package is better for me. 5) The ZL1 like the Z are limited in production and you will not be seeing one coming the other way in my neck of the woods. 6) The ZL1 is more than just high hp, it's the complete package and if the hp isn't enough low cost mods are easy to do to increase the hp. 7) Cause I can
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Let me list a few reasons why I'm trading in my Z. 1) I cannot track my Z vert. 2) I live only 90 minutes from Watkins Glen so track days are very easy for me to get to without having to get overnight accomadations. 3) The exterior styling of the ZL1 is great 4) I cannot finance my car plus save enough money to SC it also, so a package is better for me. 5) The ZL1 like the Z are limited in production and you will not be seeing one coming the other way in my neck of the woods. 6) Cause I can
Meh. I still think a lightly used Z06 would be a better track car in spades, since that is what you are after.
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Don't know if I could swing the finacing of a used C6 Z06. There is no doubt the Z06 is a great car. I hate the looks of gen 4 vetts.
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Hey if you got the money trade it up. I always looked at Camaros and Corvettes as performance bargains but nothing more. They may go fast in a straight line but will lack the overall package when it comes to luxury and performance. They are great looking from exterior nd are muscle cars, But that is it i couldnt see myself in a 50-60K camaro. Thats just me.
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