Why does best motoring hate the Z

edub370

like the vid of the amuse 370z against a 458 italia, zr1, and 360 modena... i mean common....

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alcheng

The Best Motoring races are more for fun watching, who know how hard they were really doing during the 'race'.

No matter it's NISMO or Base, it can't be tracked hardcore cos the brake will fade after 3 laps.

Maybe that's why the Z was last place.

kenchan

gan-san was really never a big fan of the FairladyZ... he hesitated to even call the Z a 'sports car.'

he even recommened one to get a AT and just drive it in the city. so i think they just wanted to shove it up our arse.

and let me just add that spec racers chuckle when they see the Z thinking it's a wannabie a sports car due to best motoring. lol

pyrrhus17

kenchan

wat are you worried about? you have a wannabie a off-road suv.

UNKNOWN_370

I hope you don't think I think the Z is a WANNABE sports car? I'm just saying that as far as speed... the Z won't be the fastest on the block in a race if other cars are more heavily modified than ours. Most of our Z owners are lightly modded tracking against heavily modded cars. That's all I meant.

But the Z is one of the truest sports cars on the road.

kenchan

gan-san just didnt like the Z's for some reason. probably something political going on in the background...

m4a1mustang

I think a lot of Americans looking at the JDM market fail to realize that there are rivalries there just like there are here with Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge.

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pyrrhus17

Wish more FI track guys would come out of the wood work, just to share their experience

m4a1mustang

Getrag MT82 is built at Getrag's facility in China and is the source of A LOT of controversy!

Though most of the "Buy American" complainers seem to ignore all of the TOKICO parts on our car. I swear half of it is JDM.

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Pharmacist

is it as unreliable and problematic as it's being made out to be?

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kenchan

dang... i didnt know that getrags were made in china.

yah, hitachi and all sorts of asian parts it seems.

indeed! and political crap in the background like how consumer reports and all the other shitty car mags publish crap about some cars.

does it catch fire like other eurpean cars? MINI recently recalled like 100K of their turbo cooper-s's. and ever mind the number of previous gen MINI's catching fire on its own.

m4a1mustang

Yeah Getrag has facilities all over the world. Really, everyone does these days. And quality isn't necessarily about where a product is produced, it's about the quality control procedures in place at each particular facility. Yeah there are factories in China that make counterfeit toothpaste, but there are also factories that build super high tech, quality stuff.

Anyways, when you look at the different manufacturers and suppliers and rivalries with an objective viewpoint you really realize that what it comes down to is everybody is fvcking everybody... there is so much overlap across brands, even rival brands, that it's hard to say "well A is better than B" because A and B are both built out of the same stuff. And in many cases B helped A develop some special part that A uses to beat B with on the track.

Think about the level of sharing these days... you've got Ford licensing technology to Nissan that they use to build the GT-R with... GM licenses technology to Ferrari for the suspension on the 458. Saab/Subaru have shared platforms. Toyota/GM have shared hybrid technology... And they all share common suppliers! It goes on and on and on and on... Everybody's fvcking everybody!

The good kind of fvck, btw.

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Pharmacist

nissan used ford technology to build the gtr?

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m4a1mustang

In short, NO! There were a lot of unjustified complaints from some either overzealous or just plain inexperienced/misinformed owners as it related to a few issues like rough cold-shifting or faint noise. Sort of like the threads we see about the clutch idle noise or shudder that pop up around here. We all know it's normal, but a lot of people don't. Just multiply the complaints ten fold and you get an idea of what's going on.

That's not to say there aren't legitimate problems with some... but it's along the lines of the "normal" distribution of failure. No better or no worse than the 6MT in the 370 I'd say as far as reliability goes if you were to consider the scale.

Honestly, if the transmission exhibited the exact same charactersitics as it does but it was manufactured by Tremec (the normal supplier of the Mustang transmissions) it wouldn't have been blown out of proportion like it is. The main stink is that it's a transmission built in China by a German company in a Mustang... even though the Tremecs are built in Mexico. China is the key word.

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