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Come on guys! Be real.

There are thing's on the current car that can be improved on big time.

Number one reasons I sold my 2010 Sport/Nav 370z was the laggggeee Eng and poor paint work.
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Come on guys! Be real.

There are thing's on the current car that can be improved on big time.

Number one reasons I sold my 2010 Sport/Nav 370z was the laggggeee Eng and poor paint work.
dude it's Nissan, look no further than past revisions. We are not going to get anything crazy. Revised fascia/wheels, and thats it.
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Number one reasons I sold my 2010 Sport/Nav 370z was the laggggeee Eng and poor paint work.
so you bought an infiniti to get better paint? they use the same color codes and paint on infiniti and nissan.

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Come on guys! Be real.

There are thing's on the current car that can be improved on big time.

Number one reasons I sold my 2010 Sport/Nav 370z was the laggggeee Eng and poor paint work.
Paintwork you can get fixed under warranty. Laggggee???? Wtf is lagggge?

Anyway... why is nissan going to put nav systems and power seats in there track model?? That's ridiculous. That's why they have a touring. If you don't like the lack of features in the NISMO. You get a touring a cuwstomize it yourself.
So yougot rid of the Z already. Why do you GAF??? Its one thing to not like paint. But if the engine was?????? Then why would you even bother???
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What are you getting upset about?

Everyone knows the 370z has very bad throttle response.

I don't have that issue on my G37, also Eng over heating I don't have that issue.

You can get Sport/Nav Touring, I just saying Nissan they need to up there game a bit and add more thing's. Look at the BMW M1 or Audi S4.

I would pay $46K for 370z that looks like NISMO with all the touring goods.

The Next Gen NISMO should be 375HP with a GT package, BMW Audi and others offer so many nice options and packages for there cars.

The next Infiniti IPL will be about $70K and have from what I have heard over 400hp.

The GT-R is $95K they can come out with a $50K NISMO Z with much better setup and better paint work.

The NISMO Z needs to be the real deal! and keep up with BMW and Audi.

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Paintwork you can get fixed under warranty. Laggggee???? Wtf is lagggge?

Anyway... why is nissan going to put nav systems and power seats in there track model?? That's ridiculous. That's why they have a touring. If you don't like the lack of features in the NISMO. You get a touring a cuwstomize it yourself.
So yougot rid of the Z already. Why do you GAF??? Its one thing to not like paint. But if the engine was?????? Then why would you even bother???
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What are you getting upset about?

Everyone knows the 370z has very bad throttle response.

I don't have that issue on my G37, also Eng over heating I don't have that issue.

You can get Sport/Nav Touring, I just saying they need up it a bit and add more thing's. Look at the BMW M1 or Audi S4.

I would pay $46K for 370z that looks like NISMO with all the touring goods.
Dude I'm not getting upset... ur logic is really messing with me though. Honestly, you wouldn't even know if you are bordeline overheating in your G because there no oil temp meter.
What you would pay for and what will happen are two different things. I mean seriously. A NISMO with power seats and nav???? You gotta be kidding me right? First go look up why the NISMO was built and designed in the first place. Then think about that reason and then post.
As for throttle response. Well my 11 has much better throttle response than my 09 Z and my 09 G. Acceleration is better and you can feel the difference in weight between the two. The 1 foot wheelbase drop makes aHUGE performance difference in corners. So I don't even know why you want to start comparing on that level. The only thing the G has over the Z is better highway stability over 130mph. Don't ask how I know.

You want better response? Buy a sprint booster.
You like the look of the NISMO??? Buy an N54 body kit.
You haven't driven the 11's and 12's so you really don't know what has improved or gotten worse.

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This is not about G vs Z, this is about the NISMO 370z being on the same level at BMW M1 or Audi S4.

Also for your INFO! I have 08 350Z NISMO number#1448 with custom mat paint work, that I track. My first Z was a 2006 GT and I also owned a 2007 G35 GT and 2009 G37S 6MT.

I just want Nissan to come up with better version of the NISMO.

Look at the Cayman S it's priced under the 911 and it has leather/Nav and a tack pack option.

What is wrong with a 370GT NISMO with Leather/Nav heated seats??

Oh wait the Japan spec 370z NISMO has that!! But not the US!
The Japan spec Autech built NISMO 350z has Leather/Nav



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Dude I'm not getting upset... ur logic is really messing with me though. Honestly, you wouldn't even know if you are bordeline overheating in your G because there no oil temp meter.
What you would pay for and what will happen are two different things. I mean seriously. A NISMO with power seats and nav???? You gotta be kidding me right? First go look up why the NISMO was built and designed in the first place. Then think about that reason and then post.
As for throttle response. Well my 11 has much better throttle response than my 09 Z and my 09 G. Acceleration is better and you can feel the difference in weight between the two. The 1 foot wheelbase drop makes aHUGE performance difference in corners. So I don't even know why you want to start comparing on that level. The only thing the G has over the Z is better highway stability over 130mph. Don't ask how I know.

You want better response? Buy a sprint booster.
You like the look of the NISMO??? Buy an N54 body kit.
You haven't driven the 11's and 12's so you really don't know what has improved or gotten worse.

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What are you getting upset about?

Everyone knows the 370z has very bad throttle response.

I don't have that issue on my G37, also Eng over heating I don't have that issue.

You can get Sport/Nav Touring, I just saying Nissan they need to up there game a bit and add more thing's. Look at the BMW M1 or Audi S4.

I would pay $46K for 370z that looks like NISMO with all the touring goods.

The Next Gen NISMO should be 375HP with a GT package, BMW Audi and others offer so many nice options and packages for there cars.

The next Infiniti IPL will be about $70K and have from what I have heard over 400hp.

The GT-R is $95K they can come out with a $50K NISMO Z with much better setup and better paint work.

The NISMO Z needs to be the real deal! and keep up with BMW and Audi.
Isn't that what the bloated over optioned G37 is for? You know giving impression that it's a Quasi Euro GT car? Even g37 falls short there. 370z Nismo isn't aimed at BMW and Aud sedan markets in my mind. If anything 370 should be losing options and weight in my opinion or its going to be sucker punched by new Toyota FT86 and Subaru BRZ. Only posuers want a 2 seat Sports GT car weighted down with silly options like nav, etc. If the ft86 or brz were out when I bought my 370z Im sure at a minimum I would have test driven them.

Here's what I'd want for 2013 nismo

seam welded chassis
Serious bucket seats that allow harnesses
Cross beam that allows harnesses to be attached
True coil over suspension
Camber and toe adjustable suspension arms
Real clutch type LSD
Lightweight door panels
Stereo and AC delete option
Motorsports level oil cooler
Automatic clutch type tranny like Porsches use
Nice lightweight aluminum hat rotors with lightweight Brembo calipers with performance tuned abs system
3.8 liter direct injection motor
Paint the car with real paint - gosh Nissan paint sucks!
Get the car to 3000 lbs
Fix the blasted fuel starve issue

That would pretty much smash anything in under $50k category

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That's a nice list.

But funny thing is if you look at the BMW M1, 0-60mph in 4.8secs 356HP /3,296 pounds and has lot stuff in it.

Why is that the 370z NISMO can't do that?




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Isn't that what the bloated over optioned G37 is for? You know giving impression that it's a Quasi Euro GT car? Even g37 falls short there. 370z Nismo isn't aimed at BMW and Aud sedan markets in my mind. If anything 370 should be losing options and weight in my opinion or its going to be sucker punched by new Toyota FT86 and Subaru BRZ. Only posuers want a 2 seat weighted down with silly options like nav, etc. If the ft86 or brz were out when I bought my 370z Im sure at a minimum I would have test driven them.

Here's what I'd want for 2013 nismo

seam welded chassis
Serious bucket seats that allow harnesses
Cross beam that allows harnesses to be attached
True coil over suspension
Camber and toe adjustable suspension arms
Real clutch type LSD
Lightweight door panels
Stereo and AC delete option
Motorsports level oil cooler
Automatic clutch type tranny like Porsches use
Nice lightweight aluminum hat rotors with lightweight Brembo calipers with performance tuned abs system
3.8 liter direct injection motor
Paint the car with real paint - gosh Nissan paint sucks!
Get the car to 3000 lbs
Fix the blasted fuel starve issue

That would pretty much smash anything in under $50k category
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That's a nice list.

But funny thing is if you look at the BMW M1, 0-60mph in 4.8secs 356HP /3,296 pounds and has lot stuff in it.

Why is that the 370z NISMO can't do that?
The 1 Series M has like 60 ft-lb of torque more than the Nismo......
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That's a nice list.

But funny thing is if you look at the BMW M1, 0-60mph in 4.8secs 356HP /3,296 pounds and has lot stuff in it.

Why is that the 370z NISMO can't do that?

1m is like 60k... nismo is 40k.
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That's a nice list.

But funny thing is if you look at the BMW M1, 0-60mph in 4.8secs 356HP /3,296 pounds and has lot stuff in it.

Why is that the 370z NISMO can't do that?
Does the M have launch control? Not sure...
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That's a nice list.

But funny thing is if you look at the BMW M1, 0-60mph in 4.8secs 356HP /3,296 pounds and has lot stuff in it.

Why is that the 370z NISMO can't do that?
Funny thing... you all that remember the 0-60 Z track record thread would have noticed the NISMO speed record in stock form thus far is 4.5/12/.9. So that in itself beats at least the 60 time of the M1. Which I saw motorweek and they got 5.1 for the 1M. Seems like it accelerates on par with the Z in stock form. The torque advantage comes from turbos.

Now notice every car you are dragging into the comparo is $20-30k more expensive than the NISMO. Japan has a leather NISMO????? Then be original and order one straight from japan. You said you are willing to spend 46k right??? Well get a lightly used one for 35k in japan and use the other 11 k and bring it over. See now you'll be the man.
So the NISMO has leather. Order JDM NISMO seats.
The only thing our NISMO truly needs right now is more power and weight reduction. As far as 1M having more torque. Its a turbo. You are making comparisons that can't be really made under the circumstances.
Remeber a base/manual is 32k a base manual sport is 35k. That's pretty cheap for the performance level that matches a 60k porsche. The NISMO and touring are 40k.

Earlier you brought up oil heating issues. You know the 12 is now oil cooled right? Though not many changes have occured, the Z has been tweaked for better bump absorption, some engine rasp reduction and in cabin volume. Throttle response has increased a little bit. And when you spend $100 on a pair of K&N filters. The Z throttle response increases to decent levels. " I'm NOT saying there's not room for improvement." But what you want is like 75% unnecessary for a performance car @ the price range. You are completely neglecting price range with the Z. And its been proven in the 90's that the Z won't sell with porsche pricing.
If you're so impressed with BMW performance ? You can always throw in a bimmer in your stable.
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That's a nice list.

But funny thing is if you look at the BMW M1, 0-60mph in 4.8secs 356HP /3,296 pounds and has lot stuff in it.

Why is that the 370z NISMO can't do that?
The M1 needs two turbos to do that. There are pickup trucks that can do nearly 5 second 0-60.

Nismos focus isn't on 0-60 times.
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and it would probably cost like $75k too

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