Are you proud of this Nissan?

kenchan · 12-08-2011, 10:41 PM

blackzeda- what is your build date?

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-08-2011, 10:51 PM

Retracting my statement based on the chronic whine may make me combust.

TheGreatOne · 12-08-2011, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

But what exactly is the truth?

Yes you had a bad experience but most people put Nissan among Toyota and Honda and looking in this thread, most people are saying thats not happened to them

If my Z died on me, granted I'd be upset, especially if I had somewhere to be but I couldn't see myself walking into the dealer asking they be "accountable"

For the money I paid, I expect them to "fix" it and provide me with my vehicle in in proper working order so i can enjoy it as intended. If they can't do that, then its time to raise my arms.

Why do I feel like I'm being "trolled" lol

gbrettin · 12-08-2011, 11:04 PM

That Nismo is a real turd. I'll take it off your hands for free.

onzedge · 12-08-2011, 11:07 PM

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

blackzeda- what is your build date?

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatOne

But what exactly is the truth?

Yes you had a bad experience but most people put Nissan among Toyota and Honda and looking in this thread, most people are saying thats not happened to them

If my Z died on me, granted I'd be upset, especially if I had somewhere to be but I couldn't see myself walking into the dealer asking they be "accountable"

For the money I paid, I expect them to "fix" it and provide me with my vehicle in in proper working order so i can enjoy it as intended. If they can't do that, then its time to raise my arms.

Why do I feel like I'm being "trolled" lol

I can only relay my experience, but overall I let people know that I love my Z and it is definitely the best looking car on the road (period). BUT, I have had problems.

Not going to sell her and as soon as she is paid off I will be modding her like crazy!

Even before that I will be adding an oil cooler, some beefy brakes, new rims and a custom paint job.

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:30 PM

onzedge

I am trying to keep an open mind, but my post is more of a cautionary tale to prospective buyers.

Thanks for the insightful words!

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin

That Nismo is a real turd. I'll take it off your hands for free.

I will send you my title and keys....hey, wait a second! You sneaky bastage!

FL 4Motion · 12-09-2011, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

/\ cliffs: onzedge is an old bastard.

...and he really likes his Z cars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

/\ steering column lock or something or other was/is an issue with a noticable amount of 09 Zs (and GTRs too I might add).

ImportConvert · 12-09-2011, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

Maybe I missed it, but what is wrong and what are they doing to correct it?
How would you feel if your Toyota ran away into an intersection? You would say the same crap. But your massive sample size of 5 didn't include that experience, so you think they are perfect or something. When you can find pph to back up your claim about Nissan 370z vs. Toyota, ill be satisfied. Until then, I'm sorry, Toyota kindof sucks. When I worked for Ford in '05 we were already rated higher in quality. Toyota is just boring and their quality isn't what you think it is. I'm not defending Nissan, I just think your faith in Toyota is not justified.

ImportConvert · 12-09-2011, 06:33 AM

Sorry, just saw the issue. I'm on my cell. Dude. That's so minor its a joke. I have had other brands do it too. It's not brand specjfic. It's like hating Nissan because the windshield wiped motor went out twice. It's not a quality marker, really.

Alchemy · 12-09-2011, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

IMPRESSIVE mileage on those Z's sir!! WOW 11 Z cars, impressive as well

OP, nothing is perfect in this world. SH1t is gonna happen. Things are ALWAYS gonna break.

Cmike2780 · 12-09-2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

You missed the point.

There is no point. End thread

kenchan · 12-09-2011, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

Thanks, yah I will update the info on the intelligent key link.

12-08-2011, 11:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684737	BlackZeda -- Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread. To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune. As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems. I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much. -- onzedge has written... __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

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12-08-2011, 10:41 PM	#31 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	blackzeda- what is your build date?

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12-08-2011, 11:30 PM	#38 (permalink)
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ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7628	Sorry, just saw the issue. I'm on my cell. Dude. That's so minor its a joke. I have had other brands do it too. It's not brand specjfic. It's like hating Nissan because the windshield wiped motor went out twice. It's not a quality marker, really.