Are you proud of this Nissan?

TheGreatOne · 12-08-2011, 10:20 PM

I love this car to death

I think you are being a little harsh...if these cars (cars in general) weren't made to have an issue...there would be no such things as "warranties" and "service departments"

So ya, sucks you got stranded...but we can't always have the perfect scenario.

I've done over 300+ transactions on Ebay without issue or scams etc. So I love it, yet I know people that have had bad experiences 2 out of 3 times...someone gets the shaft sometimes...

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne

I love this car to death

I think you are being a little harsh...if these cars (cars in general) weren't made to have an issue...there would be no such things as "warranties" and "service departments"

So ya, sucks you got stranded...but we can't always have the perfect scenario.

I've done over 300+ transactions on Ebay without issue or scams etc. So I love it, yet I know people that have had bad experiences 2 out of 3 times...someone gets the shaft sometimes...

It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

TheGreatOne · 12-08-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

But what exactly is the truth?

Yes you had a bad experience but most people put Nissan among Toyota and Honda and looking in this thread, most people are saying thats not happened to them

If my Z died on me, granted I'd be upset, especially if I had somewhere to be but I couldn't see myself walking into the dealer asking they be "accountable"

For the money I paid, I expect them to "fix" it and provide me with my vehicle in in proper working order so i can enjoy it as intended. If they can't do that, then its time to raise my arms.

Why do I feel like I'm being "trolled" lol

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne

But what exactly is the truth?

Yes you had a bad experience but most people put Nissan among Toyota and Honda and looking in this thread, most people are saying thats not happened to them

If my Z died on me, granted I'd be upset, especially if I had somewhere to be but I couldn't see myself walking into the dealer asking they be "accountable"

For the money I paid, I expect them to "fix" it and provide me with my vehicle in in proper working order so i can enjoy it as intended. If they can't do that, then its time to raise my arms.

Why do I feel like I'm being "trolled" lol

I can only relay my experience, but overall I let people know that I love my Z and it is definitely the best looking car on the road (period). BUT, I have had problems.

Not going to sell her and as soon as she is paid off I will be modding her like crazy!

Even before that I will be adding an oil cooler, some beefy brakes, new rims and a custom paint job.

ImportConvert · 12-09-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

Maybe I missed it, but what is wrong and what are they doing to correct it?
How would you feel if your Toyota ran away into an intersection? You would say the same crap. But your massive sample size of 5 didn't include that experience, so you think they are perfect or something. When you can find pph to back up your claim about Nissan 370z vs. Toyota, ill be satisfied. Until then, I'm sorry, Toyota kindof sucks. When I worked for Ford in '05 we were already rated higher in quality. Toyota is just boring and their quality isn't what you think it is. I'm not defending Nissan, I just think your faith in Toyota is not justified.

BlackZeda · 12-09-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Maybe I missed it, but what is wrong and what are they doing to correct it?
How would you feel if your Toyota ran away into an intersection? You would say the same crap. But your massive sample size of 5 didn't include that experience, so you think they are perfect or something. When you can find pph to back up your claim about Nissan 370z vs. Toyota, ill be satisfied. Until then, I'm sorry, Toyota kindof sucks. When I worked for Ford in '05 we were already rated higher in quality. Toyota is just boring and their quality isn't what you think it is. I'm not defending Nissan, I just think your faith in Toyota is not justified.

Please, keep on going. It is quite entertaining.

ImportConvert · 12-09-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Please, keep on going. It is quite entertaining.

Still doesn't hold a candle to someone saying a brand is crap because their car wouldn't start and needed a couple of minor parts replaced and a tow. You don't have any real information to share, just wanted to whine. I understand, it can be frustrating.

kenchan · 12-08-2011, 10:41 PM

blackzeda- what is your build date?

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

blackzeda- what is your build date?

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

kenchan · 12-09-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

Thanks, yah I will update the info on the intelligent key link.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-08-2011, 10:51 PM

Retracting my statement based on the chronic whine may make me combust.

gbrettin · 12-08-2011, 11:04 PM

That Nismo is a real turd. I'll take it off your hands for free.

BlackZeda · 12-08-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

That Nismo is a real turd. I'll take it off your hands for free.

I will send you my title and keys....hey, wait a second! You sneaky bastage!

FL 4Motion · 12-09-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

/\ cliffs: onzedge is an old bastard.

...and he really likes his Z cars.

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

/\ steering column lock or something or other was/is an issue with a noticable amount of 09 Zs (and GTRs too I might add).

onzedge · 12-09-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

/\ cliffs: onzedge is an old bastard.

...and he really likes his Z cars.

/\ steering column lock or something or other was/is an issue with a noticable amount of 09 Zs (and GTRs too I might add).

I prefer to think of myself as "experienced", not old.

Also, I may be 51 and old, but I refuse to grow up. Ask anyone. When maturity comes knocking on my door, I pretend I am not at home.

12-08-2011, 10:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 47 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 22	I love this car to death I think you are being a little harsh...if these cars (cars in general) weren't made to have an issue...there would be no such things as "warranties" and "service departments" So ya, sucks you got stranded...but we can't always have the perfect scenario. I've done over 300+ transactions on Ebay without issue or scams etc. So I love it, yet I know people that have had bad experiences 2 out of 3 times...someone gets the shaft sometimes... __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

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