370Z Test Drive - Questions

cossie1600

The 370 feels like a slow car compare to the 350/EVO/STi, it's just the byproduct of a high revving engine and the extremely tall gears. The car will always have a delay thanks to the drive by wire lag, the clutch feel is just personal preference. I have driven 300ZX TT. It feels fast, but it is not faster.

280z/300zx

With regards to the 09 losing power I think it's fuel starvation. There have been reports that if close to 1/4 tank and high speed cornering that it can be fuel starved as the fuel pick up isn't able to accomadate.

As for high rpm acceleration I think you are just used to the TT you have now. The feeling of acceleration does go away in the higher rpms but if you look down at the speedo you are still accleration at a good pace.

Not sure about the rear squat. I too am used to that with my Z31 and my 370z doesn't have that. I used to have a 2009 touring sport and the rear squat is what I would consider normal, not like the 280zx or 300zx. Currently I have a Nismo 370z and it doesn't squat at all, but then again the suspension is much firmer.

As for the 09 adj suspension skipping around, thats common when changing the suspension to aftermarket. You have to be carefull you chose a set up that is meant for the car. Previous owner may have just not set the struts up right.

clutch on the 40th may need repalcing. Perhaps sign of prior abuse from owner or new manual driver learning on the car.

Based off your description of both cars I would pass and find a different selection. I would avoid the 40th because of the clutch and avoid the 2009 due to the suspension. If I buy a used sports car I want something that was babied and never modified, but thats me and probably why I just buy new instead (aside from my 280z and 300zx).

Dave N

I initially thought of that, but the engine didn't sputter as if it was starving for fuel. Perhaps the ECU is programmed to override the throttle input and force the engine to stay at idle and avoid a lean condition. I'll dig deeper on the fuel starvation topic and see if I can come up with more info.

I was thinking the same thing but still surprised at how anemic the engine appeared to be. And while you're right about the acceleration continuing at a good pace, it's definitely not the pace that the TT provides. Another thing that probably skewed my perspective is that I've gotten a ride in a TT 370Z and it was very impressive throughout the RPM range. Obviously a lot of credit goes to the turbos but I had presumed the normally aspirated engine would not be as hindered as what I felt on these two cars over the weekend.

Those were my same thoughts as well. Too stiff and you start losing tire patch on the pavement due to the car's inability to absorb the impacts.

Agreed on both counts. I was really leaning towards a 40th but, silly as this may sound, I prefer the nav package as it places more info higher up so you don't have to take your eyes too far off the road to get climate/radio/phone info. I could live with the soft suspension for a while but would have insisted the dealer verify the clutch is OK (supposedly checked to qualify it as CPO, but I don't think rapid upshifts are part of the criteria).

The '09's biggest downfall is the aftermarket suspension and the question of abuse by the previous owner. I played this up to the sales guy along with the fact that it lost power twice. Based on those items, I think the car is over priced and definitely not something I want to take on. Like you, I prefer new cars so *I* know that it's been properly broken in and not abused. Aside from the funky clutch action, I think the 40th Z was much closer to the mark than the '09.

I'm in no hurry to buy another car at this time. It was more of an exercise to scratch an itch and see how the 370Z compared to my Z - I was mostly curious to see if I could fit in it (6'4" - it was a bit snug). The 370Z has some nice amenities and the styling is growing on me. But the Z32 doesn't look too dated compared to most cars out there. My biggest issue on the Z32 is it's age (22 years old), and relative lack of safety enhancements compared to the 370Z (and virtually every newer car on the road for that matter).

Thanks for your input. It's greatly appreciated.

Dave

ImportConvert

I will disagree partially.

I think the 370Z felt fast at any rpm, based on the numbers it lays down (It felt way stronger than 230rwtq off the line, and about right for 290whp at 80mph).

The gears in it, I found to be a bit short. I was already in 3rd by about 60-70 driving it "spiritedly".

The reason people whine about the 370Z "nosing over" or "feeling slow" is because they are probably not used to cars with large displacement engines, superchargers, or VVT. All of which contribute to a very linear torque curve. People expect a car to hit harder and harder as the revs climb, and the 370Z certainly does, but your body perceives that the acceleration has "leveled" off very fast in cars with table-top torque curves.

The rate of acceleration is much more linear.

It's like watching a guy jog across a football field vs. watching a guy walk, then jog, then break into a sprint. If you live for the last few feet/rpm, that guy was SO MUCH FASTER! But if you look at the data, our jogger probably has a better time.

FWIW, the 370Z feels identical to the C5 corvette/Camaro/Trans Am of the LS1 era, regarding its acceleration. Including 5-60mph. This totally stunned me. V6 with 230rwtq feeling the same from a low slow roll as an LS1 V8. I looked up the numbers and my suspicions were correct. 5-60 times the mags got as were identical. Crazy.

Hats off to Nissan. Go race something (on a track ) and report back. I bet it pulls harder than you think past 5K.

cossie1600

It might be short compare to your Corvette, but it can do 42 in 1st and 69 in 2nd and about 99 in 3rd. That's pretty tall for a car with that kind of gear. I mean I think it is perfect, but to the fast and furious crowd it is a little bit low.

ImportConvert

A little lower geared than my old F-body. It's not a tall geared car unless you're coming from a Prius.