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Matt, your argument doesn't work. There's nothing wrong with the LS series of engines. In fact, the LS7 is a very modern take on a pushrod design. Just because it's an old design doesn't mean it's a bad one.

The truth of the matter is that with these big V8s, whether they are pushrod or OHC like my 5.0, you don't need to use but a couple gears to get around in normal driving. When I drive I usually shift from 1-4-6 and have plenty of get up and go thanks to the amount of low end torque this car has. The only reason it has a skip shift feature is so the morons at the EPA drive the thing correctly. There is NO need to go 1-2-3-4-5-6 in a car like my 5.0, let alone a C6 Z06.

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You said it yourself though, it is just a modern take on a old engine design.
I never said the engine was bad or horrible, I am just saying GM needs to focus on the future instead of constantly rebuilding from the past glory years.

Why am I limited to just NA motors? We are talking about all motors here, throw in V6TT or V6SC and they easily match the LS7 on all levels including cost, weight, MPG. This is the modern world, NA engines are just a small fraction, boost or variations of boost are easily competitive, just as cheap and offer equal (if not more most of the time) power with MPG.

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Okay, the GT-R's engine/turbo's weigh over 600#. The LS9 makes way more power, and weighs around 500#. Lets go move for move.

GM is not "re-building glory-years". They are making the most power that can possibly be made in a 450# engine without incurring insane costs.

Why don't you do some research on it? Nothing even comes close to the LS7 for making 500+bhp N/A price-wise. I mean by tens of thousands of dollars.

Nothing makes as much as the LS9 in the production car world unless you want to include things like the Veyron, and kit-car type stuff. Then you would have to include Hennessey's "kit car".

My point is, for the cost of the LSX series engine, they are BY FAR the best performing powerplant you can buy when it comes to durability/power/weight/price, and easy as pie to upgrade even further, or leave alone and enjoy a 5/100 warranty.

Can you name another 600+bhp car that has a 5/100K mile warranty?

This argument is similar to what S2000 owners keep crowing about "hp/L".

Well since you lost the race, your opinion isn't worth much. That's the message GM is sending by producing the fastest production car in the world (regarding the 'Ring, which seems to be "the" standard now days). They did it all with 16 valves and 1 cam.