Was looking to possibly buy a Shelby

shadoquad · 07-28-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Sorry but Z06's feel so cheap to me. Everything inside is plastic. Not to mention that big V8 just destroys you in the gas department. Thats one of the biggest reasons I don't even want to consider the Z06. For a very similar price you can get a car that can do this :

I think that just about settles this dispute.

The Z06 gets good mileage for that V8. It's almost identical to the GTR's mileage.

RCZ · 07-28-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

The Z06 gets good mileage for that V8. It's almost identical to the GTR's mileage.

Yeah except your skipping second gear to do it.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-28-2011, 10:51 AM

Wow. From selling a Z for a shelby to bimmers vettes n gt-r's boy am I late. Lol

shadoquad · 07-28-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Yeah except your skipping second gear to do it.

Were we talking economy or performance? If you're on a track, either one is going to be burning through its tank like no tomorrow. If you're seeking economy, you drive to maximize that, and the car will do just as well as that 6-banger.

cossie1600 · 07-28-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Yeah except your skipping second gear to do it.

how much boost do you think epa testers were using when they tested the gtr. also since when do you use 2nd to cruise on the highway.

2 to 3 sec split doesnt seem too bad to me given the zr1 comes with pilot sport tires, amazing how they put these crappy tires on their supercar. i was expecting pilot cups like the porsche

GZ3 · 07-28-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

holy moly..... yeah that's crazy man. I hope mine is not like that. I'm monitoring mine real good now. So far, no consumption.

Sorry to hear about your predicament. No wonder you now have a Stang.

Does Lemon apply for how long after you bought the car?

haha yeah, they lemoned it right there, walked away free and clear...right across the highway was the ford dealer. Walked out of there in 1hr with a 5.0 lol

As far as the lemon law...not too sure how long it applies, but i had my 370z for a year total...the problems started at 6 months...makes me sad to think i got a lemon cause i really love Z cars and the 370 was just awesome up until

RCZ · 07-28-2011, 04:03 PM

Oh I wasnt saying the GT-R gets babied to get those mpg. All I was saying is that his comment about it being as gas efficient as the GTR should be labeled for what it is and not just throw out there the way it was because that almost makes it sound like the 7L V8 uses same gas as the 3.8 TTV6. Yeah you get those figures because under easy driving the Z06 automatically skips from first to 4th and 6th gear is extremely tall.

Regardless, I guess the idea here isnt just gas mileage, it was just something to take into account when choosing a new car. I think the Z06 is a great car, just the feel is not my cup of tea.

GT-R doesnt have cup tires either...plus if it puts a beating on the ZR1 then we know the z06 doesnt stand much of a chance.

chuckd05 · 07-28-2011, 04:37 PM

If you can really afford any of these cars the maintenance shouldn't be a problem. Just my .02. If you can't that it's the wrong car for you.

ImportConvert · 07-28-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Yeah except your skipping second gear to do it.

Cruising on the freeway at 65-75mph with a few WOT blasts I got 26.02mpg calculated manually over a 119 mile round-trip.

What do you get in your 332bhp 370Z doing the same?

ImportConvert · 07-28-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

If you can really afford any of these cars the maintenance shouldn't be a problem. Just my .02. If you can't that it's the wrong car for you.

Right, and but that doesn't mean you WANT to afford it. It's like saying "You make $250K a year gross, why worry about $50K in taxes to support welfare?" **** that.

Ability and want are two separate things.

ImportConvert · 07-28-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

how much boost do you think epa testers were using when they tested the gtr. also since when do you use 2nd to cruise on the highway.

2 to 3 sec split doesnt seem too bad to me given the zr1 comes with pilot sport tires, amazing how they put these crappy tires on their supercar. i was expecting pilot cups like the porsche

ZR1 is now offered with Sport Cup, as is the Z06.

theDreamer · 07-28-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Cruising on the freeway at 65-75mph with a few WOT blasts I got 26.02mpg calculated manually over a 119 mile round-trip.

What do you get in your 332bhp 370Z doing the same?

Well my last road trip, 4 hours, I got just under 25MPG in my 400whp SC 370z doing an average of 85mph so I think the Z is fine.

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Right, and but that doesn't mean you WANT to afford it. It's like saying "You make $250K a year gross, why worry about $50K in taxes to support welfare?" **** that.

Ability and want are two separate things.

Wow...fail comparison.

ImportConvert · 07-28-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Brakes are different, tires are different, supercharger maintenance.
There are some solid differences that up the ZR-1 cost, not to a crazy level but on par with the GT-R over time.

Brakes are identical.*
Tires/rims are identical.*
Supercharger is maintenance free from what I understand unless you tear the belt up or something. I'm not sure to be honest if it has its own oil supply or pulls from the engine or is a "fill for life" thing or what, but it can't cost much.

*Z06 w/Z07. Brakes require no maintenance for 100K miles unless you seriously track the car, but then all maintenance costs will go through the roof on anything. CC brakes will cost out the ***. They cost almost the same as the GT-R's conventional brakes though, lol.

ImportConvert · 07-28-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Well my last road trip, 4 hours, I got just under 25MPG in my 400whp SC 370z doing an average of 85mph so I think the Z is fine.

Wow...fail comparison.

How is it a fail comparison?

Paying for welfare annoys me almost as much as a $1000+ transmission fluid swap would. (I wish I made $250K, or I could be having this discussion on a Ferrari forum, but sadly, lol)

Also, sounds like my 7.0 is rather efficient.

theDreamer · 07-28-2011, 05:05 PM

Ok, you are buying a 90k car, how much do you want maintenance to be, 50 bucks? Again, this is a new transmission which requires more maintenance or slightly more expensive fluid & up keep. This is not a 65k car with an old design setup which has been carried over for the past 10 years.

Honestly what do you want me to say, you are right? No, because the GT-R price is perfectly in line with what it should be.

07-28-2011, 04:37 PM	#113 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	If you can really afford any of these cars the maintenance shouldn't be a problem. Just my .02. If you can't that it's the wrong car for you. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Ok, you are buying a 90k car, how much do you want maintenance to be, 50 bucks? Again, this is a new transmission which requires more maintenance or slightly more expensive fluid & up keep. This is not a 65k car with an old design setup which has been carried over for the past 10 years. Honestly what do you want me to say, you are right? No, because the GT-R price is perfectly in line with what it should be. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Oh I wasnt saying the GT-R gets babied to get those mpg. All I was saying is that his comment about it being as gas efficient as the GTR should be labeled for what it is and not just throw out there the way it was because that almost makes it sound like the 7L V8 uses same gas as the 3.8 TTV6. Yeah you get those figures because under easy driving the Z06 automatically skips from first to 4th and 6th gear is extremely tall. Regardless, I guess the idea here isnt just gas mileage, it was just something to take into account when choosing a new car. I think the Z06 is a great car, just the feel is not my cup of tea. GT-R doesnt have cup tires either...plus if it puts a beating on the ZR1 then we know the z06 doesnt stand much of a chance.