Would you have gotten a GTR?

Synack · 06-21-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by happytheman

Ummmmm.......

Yeah I was just quoted for just under $3000 for 6 months in Texas. My driving record can be explained by this:

I had to back off on some of the higher up premiums for options I was paying for on the Cobalt I had. In GA my Cobalt was $230 a month for damn good insurance and my driving record. In TX it bumped it up to $300, just because its TX. So when I switched to the 370Z AND I moved to Texas I was going to get double raped. So I had to back off on some stuff hardcore. Now I pay $340 a month in TX with the Z.

2011 Nismo#91 · 06-20-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastfatdude

Assuming both the Z and GTR are priced the same, would you get the GTR?

Personally, after hearing horror stories about GTR insurance/maintenance/repair costs and the fact that its a dime a dozen from where i come from, i would have chosen a Z anyway...

However, am sure it would be fun to just drive the GTR for a week or two, just to experience Nissan's finest...

Same price? Has to be the GTR, even if you don't like it just sell it and by a 370z or two. Which is exactly what I'd do.

Fastfatdude · 06-20-2011, 07:49 PM

I suppose if we want an exciting commute, the gtr should not be a first choice... Its supposed to be soooo easy to drive my grandma can drive it... For the same money life becomes exciting if i get to drive a lotus exige as a daily...

Anyway the z sorta strikes a balance..

DjSquall · 06-20-2011, 07:57 PM

I love my Z. But I can't wait to get a GTR

both are great cars in their own way.

Synack · 06-20-2011, 09:25 PM

I'm too lazy to go back and quote this but GTM claim over 500whp on a base 370Z. If a 370Z can achieve that stock other than the supercharger than it can definitely run with a GTR, if not faster. Unless I missed something :/

Pharmacist · 06-21-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack

I'm too lazy to go back and quote this but GTM claim over 500whp on a base 370Z. If a 370Z can achieve that stock other than the supercharger than it can definitely run with a GTR, if not faster. Unless I missed something :/

Yes, you missed the elephant in the room. The Gt-R is not about horsepower and straightline speed. It's about handling and cornering. You have a very fast shifting double clutch gearbox, along with a highly sophisticated electronically controlled AWD system. That's why the GT-R can keep up with ferraris and lamborghinis and corvettes that have way more power and way less weight. A forced induction 370z can produce the same power as a GT-R but it still lacks the gearbox and AWD system that helps the GT-R go so fast on a track.

Maintenance costs are very high on the GT-R. But you have to keep in mind that this car is considered a supercar. All supercars have high maintenance costs. What are the maintenance costs on a 911 turbo, a ferrari 430, or a lambo gallardo for example? How would they compare to the GT-R?

If both cars are the same price I'd get the GT-R. Yeah its more boring to drive on the street, but I'm pretty sure its a blast to drive on a track.

happytheman · 06-20-2011, 09:57 PM

I think the question that would make this a much more fair question would be:

If the GTR and Z produced identical power and torque AND cost the same..which would you buy?

I think that would drastically change the answers of most of yous out there that are all about the extra power. I would definitely go with the Z regardless, because I think it's incredibly sexy!

chuckd05 · 06-21-2011, 12:16 AM

I would take a GTR AND a 370z if they were the same price. I'd drive the GTR all winter long while rotating In the summer.

GTR's tranny Is not that boring. For those people that say they want to "drift" I'm assuming most of you only mean fishtailing here and there... the GTR will do that no problem.

GTR owners are you able to control the power split? I'm assuming you can, I am just not sure. Like 40/60 f/r or even more rwd oriented?

Synack · 06-21-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

I would take a GTR AND a 370z if they were the same price. I'd drive the GTR all winter long while rotating In the summer.

GTR's tranny Is not that boring. For those people that say they want to "drift" I'm assuming most of you only mean fishtailing here and there... the GTR will do that no problem.

GTR owners are you able to control the power split? I'm assuming you can, I am just not sure. Like 40/60 f/r or even more rwd oriented?

I wouldn't even be satisfied if the GTR was 20/80 F/R. I need at least 5/95 lol. Also, I prefer the traditional manual shifter and I can't stand BOATS of a car! Like MUSTANGS, YUCK!

Cmike2780 · 06-21-2011, 10:01 AM

All things being equal, I think most of us would want the 370Z's looks and GT-R's performance. Unfortunately, most of us live in the real world. Anyway, half the fun of owning these cars is modifying. The GT-R has very little left for improvement without costing a small fortune. With the sticker price of the GT-R, you could have a Z that's pretty fast & unique. If money was no object, I'd still get a Z....heck I'd get two.

MC · 06-21-2011, 10:47 AM

there is no default power split like evo or sti... its is like 98%/2% until the AWD is needed then is sends the appropriate torque to the front wheels in real time then back to RWD

Synack · 06-21-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MC

there is no default power split like evo or sti... its is like 98%/2% until the AWD is needed then is sends the appropriate torque to the front wheels in real time then back to RWD

Is there anyway to control it so it, let's say, doesn't send said appropriate torque to the front wheels? So one can initiate minor street slide on a road.

MC · 06-21-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack

Is there anyway to control it so it, let's say, doesn't send said appropriate torque to the front wheels? So one can initiate minor street slide on a road.

no but it has a R mode VDC setting that will let the back end come out a little without interfering..

the only thing close to what your asking about is the 2012 has a feature that disengages the front differential to reduce front end binding in sharp turns or in the cold.... but it only works at like 6mph and under

ZInferno0248 · 06-21-2011, 12:56 PM

An AWD Z would be fun. Still want a manual shifter though and agreed on the no boat (huge car) theory.

Synack · 06-21-2011, 02:12 PM

Coming from my original love of a boosted 240 is why I'd prefer the Z. Feels more like its YOU and the car. Instead of the GTR feeling like its the CAR and you, especially with all of the computer stuff going on. I'm still in the process of getting used to drive by wire. It already screwed me over once in the Z. But nothing serious.

06-20-2011, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Fastfatdude Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Spore Posts: 155 Drives: Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 16	I suppose if we want an exciting commute, the gtr should not be a first choice... Its supposed to be soooo easy to drive my grandma can drive it... For the same money life becomes exciting if i get to drive a lotus exige as a daily... Anyway the z sorta strikes a balance.. __________________

06-20-2011, 09:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 38 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 18	I'm too lazy to go back and quote this but GTM claim over 500whp on a base 370Z. If a 370Z can achieve that stock other than the supercharger than it can definitely run with a GTR, if not faster. Unless I missed something :/ __________________ NO LONGER OWNS A 370 Turbo FR-S

06-20-2011, 09:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
happytheman A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,737 Drives: MB 6M Tour/Sport Z34 Rep Power: 1824	I think the question that would make this a much more fair question would be: If the GTR and Z produced identical power and torque AND cost the same..which would you buy? I think that would drastically change the answers of most of yous out there that are all about the extra power. I would definitely go with the Z regardless, because I think it's incredibly sexy! __________________ --Brantly-- *PowderCoating by Mike/Stillen/PWJDM/Shine Auto/NST* GTR/Michelin /Fast Intentions/Evo-R/Mobil 1/Motul/Z1 https://facebook.com/CentralFloridaZClub

06-21-2011, 12:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 21	I would take a GTR AND a 370z if they were the same price. I'd drive the GTR all winter long while rotating In the summer. GTR's tranny Is not that boring. For those people that say they want to "drift" I'm assuming most of you only mean fishtailing here and there... the GTR will do that no problem. GTR owners are you able to control the power split? I'm assuming you can, I am just not sure. Like 40/60 f/r or even more rwd oriented? __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

06-21-2011, 10:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 30	All things being equal, I think most of us would want the 370Z's looks and GT-R's performance. Unfortunately, most of us live in the real world. Anyway, half the fun of owning these cars is modifying. The GT-R has very little left for improvement without costing a small fortune. With the sticker price of the GT-R, you could have a Z that's pretty fast & unique. If money was no object, I'd still get a Z....heck I'd get two. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

06-20-2011, 07:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
DjSquall A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tottenham, ON Age: 38 Posts: 1,340 Drives: My first car Rep Power: 24	I love my Z. But I can't wait to get a GTR both are great cars in their own way.

06-21-2011, 10:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 25	there is no default power split like evo or sti... its is like 98%/2% until the AWD is needed then is sends the appropriate torque to the front wheels in real time then back to RWD __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO

06-21-2011, 12:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
ZInferno0248 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 154 Drives: 2010 370Z Nismo SC'd Rep Power: 16	An AWD Z would be fun. Still want a manual shifter though and agreed on the no boat (huge car) theory. __________________ 2010 370Z Nismo, Silver / GTM Stage-1 SC / Custom Tune / GTM Oil Cooler / FI Resonated Test Pipes / FI CBE / Alpine HU / Focal's / JL AMP & Sub / AP Racing BBK / TTA TE-37's / RE-11's / KW V3's / SPC Camber Arms / Whiteline Sways

06-21-2011, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 38 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 18	Coming from my original love of a boosted 240 is why I'd prefer the Z. Feels more like its YOU and the car. Instead of the GTR feeling like its the CAR and you, especially with all of the computer stuff going on. I'm still in the process of getting used to drive by wire. It already screwed me over once in the Z. But nothing serious. __________________ NO LONGER OWNS A 370 Turbo FR-S