engine break-in contradiction

11Thumper · 06-08-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

As said above the motors are some what broken in by the time the car is assembled,but this discussion is not a waste there has been a debate about this for a long time here is a link with very interesting look at this topic(if you are willing to read it)

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

Interesting reading. I don't agree with everything the author said but that's typical. To each his/her own and I can respect that. However, much of what the author recommends is similar to what I do. I didn't see his qualifications on the article but I did gloss over some parts of it since I'm at work so I might have missed it.

I do feel topics like this are a waste, especially when the OP asks a question like this after he's already run the engine hard. What's the point? If you don't have specific intimate knowledge of how an engine actually works (besides the push start button) just follow the owner's manual.

You can ask 1,000,000 engineers the same question and get 1,000,001 answers, TRUST ME.

To me the most important part of the whole process is lubrication and heat management. That's MY opinion and nobody has to agree or follow it because it's highly likely (just ask my lady) that I'm wrong anyway.

Baer383 · 06-08-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

To me the most important part of the whole process is lubrication and heat management.

you hit the nail on the head there is really only 3 things that are imporant during breakin,

1.lubrication (also oil temps must be watched)
2.heat (new engines generate ALLOT of heat until they loosen up)
3.speed ( not in mph but time frame to get the rings seated)

However anyone can/knows how to achieve this they will have a healthy engine.

Dwight Frye · 06-08-2011, 06:26 PM

Think of it this way: Have you ever heard of anyone damaging or having a poor performing engine who followed the factory recommended break in procedure ? I haven't. There are some who recommend "driving it like you stole it" right off the showroom floor and who claim no problems. Maybe so, but the anecdotal evidence isn't in their favor that it does any good either. Err on the side of caution and RTFM.

11Thumper · 06-08-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Think of it this way: Have you ever heard of anyone damaging or having a poor performing engine who followed the factory recommended break in procedure ? I haven't. There are some who recommend "driving it like you stole it" right off the showroom floor and who claim no problems. Maybe so, but the anecdotal evidence isn't in their favor that it does any good either. Err on the side of caution and RTFM.

You're from "Occupied California"?

sonic370 · 06-08-2011, 08:12 PM

i'm not an expert just an average guy who likes his car 09 370...
but i think sometime this subject is beat on like a old mule...........

i'm old school treat you car right. service it when it needs it and these new
motors of today will go 100,000 miles easy...

beat the crap out of it and don't maintain it and your asking for trouble which you will get.......

quick story. at nissan getting oil changed.. tow truck pulls up with brand new
370 it's got 9,000 miles on it with 1 quart of oil in it. owner starts in on service
manager about car locking up.......long story short i think it was 10 grand or more to replace engine. should have seen the look on the guys face when he was told sorry no warranty. sorry to ramble just use a little common sense.

2ndChance · 06-08-2011, 08:18 PM

My car was used as test drive at nissan pataluma dealer.

So I'm sure it got a proper break in.

Baer383 · 06-08-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndChance

My car was used as test drive at nissan pataluma dealer.

So I'm sure it got a proper break in.

After all the work you had done on your car proper breaking it in is the least of your worries.

11Thumper · 06-09-2011, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

quick story. at nissan getting oil changed.. tow truck pulls up with brand new 370 it's got 9,000 miles on it with 1 quart of oil in it. owner starts in on service manager about car locking up.......long story short i think it was 10 grand or more to replace engine. should have seen the look on the guys face when he was told sorry no warranty. sorry to ramble just use a little common sense.

Nice. I didn't even drive the car off the lot without checking all fluids I could.

FromG2Z · 06-09-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

i'm not an expert just an average guy who likes his car 09 370...
but i think sometime this subject is beat on like a old mule...........

i'm old school treat you car right. service it when it needs it and these new
motors of today will go 100,000 miles easy...

beat the crap out of it and don't maintain it and your asking for trouble which you will get.......

quick story. at nissan getting oil changed.. tow truck pulls up with brand new
370 it's got 9,000 miles on it with 1 quart of oil in it. owner starts in on service
manager about car locking up.......long story short i think it was 10 grand or more to replace engine. should have seen the look on the guys face when he was told sorry no warranty. sorry to ramble just use a little common sense.

So what happened with this dude? Why was he refused warranty? Was it neglect? or was it something wrong with the engine if it burnt up all that oil? Because if he did his due diligence in changing oil, why was he refused warranty? I mean I know I would (and do) always check fluids 1x or 2x a week, but still, I don't think that was necessary for any other layman owner. So I am curious to know why he was refused warranty.

onzedge · 06-09-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

So what happened with this dude? Why was he refused warranty? Was it neglect? or was it something wrong with the engine if it burnt up all that oil? Because if he did his due diligence in changing oil, why was he refused warranty? I mean I know I would (and do) always check fluids 1x or 2x a week, but still, I don't think that was necessary for any other layman owner. So I am curious to know why he was refused warranty.

I, too, am curious aboout this.

KillerBee370 · 06-08-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

You're from "Occupied California"?

Haha I love it!!

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06-08-2011, 06:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 17	Think of it this way: Have you ever heard of anyone damaging or having a poor performing engine who followed the factory recommended break in procedure ? I haven't. There are some who recommend "driving it like you stole it" right off the showroom floor and who claim no problems. Maybe so, but the anecdotal evidence isn't in their favor that it does any good either. Err on the side of caution and RTFM.

06-08-2011, 08:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 20	i'm not an expert just an average guy who likes his car 09 370... but i think sometime this subject is beat on like a old mule........... i'm old school treat you car right. service it when it needs it and these new motors of today will go 100,000 miles easy... beat the crap out of it and don't maintain it and your asking for trouble which you will get....... quick story. at nissan getting oil changed.. tow truck pulls up with brand new 370 it's got 9,000 miles on it with 1 quart of oil in it. owner starts in on service manager about car locking up.......long story short i think it was 10 grand or more to replace engine. should have seen the look on the guys face when he was told sorry no warranty. sorry to ramble just use a little common sense.

06-08-2011, 08:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
2ndChance Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Panama Posts: 240 Drives: like he stole it Rep Power: 201	My car was used as test drive at nissan pataluma dealer. So I'm sure it got a proper break in.