took vdc off

zero · 02-28-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bigrob126

Heck, what did everyone with a fast car do before traction control was invented?

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!!Drive that baby!!!

They learned how to drive and there was no cell phone.

christian370z · 02-28-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by zero

there was no cell phone.

LOL, so true.

18whisky · 02-28-2011, 06:35 AM

It was at 600am the temperature was 29 deegres going to work, the deal is I was making a right turn at 30mph hit black ice

and the car went sideways, to corrected I had to push the throttle and do a powerslide

. With VDC on I bet the car woulded caught greep and problably lost control

. I was not specting that to happend. I think everybody needs to learn what your car is capable off

so when this moments comes you know what to do.

cossie1600 · 02-27-2011, 11:21 PM

People wreck them now, what is your point. Have you seen the insurance rate on the 370, it is quite high. My Corvette and 911 were cheaper

Red__Zed · 02-27-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

People wreck them now, what is your point. Have you seen the insurance rate on the 370, it is quite high. My Corvette and 911 were cheaper

My point was a lot more people wrecked their cars before we got things like VDC.

Not sure what the insurance rate on the Z has to do with it...

bigrob126 · 02-27-2011, 11:50 PM

I cant speak for anyone else here, but for me, the VDC takes the fun out of driving the car, or any fast car for that matter. I like to let the car get squirly, or fishtail when I cut a corner quickly if I so desire. Thats such fun.....as long as Mr policeman doesn't see you doing it, and naturally you have to be careful for safety reasons as well, but as I said earlier, you gotta know you and your vehicle's limitations, and if you are not comfortable, or sure of yourself, best leave that button alone!

cossie1600 · 02-28-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

My point was a lot more people wrecked their cars before we got things like VDC.

Not sure what the insurance rate on the Z has to do with it...

They are still wrecking them now. We have better tires and technology. There might be less people dying, but people are still crashing it.

SeattleLion · 03-07-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

My point was a lot more people wrecked their cars before we got things like VDC.

Not sure what the insurance rate on the Z has to do with it...

I also think that sports cars (not counting the 'vette in this discussion) had a lot less power in the old days. My 240 was very hard to spin even though there was nothing at all electronic in it. Mostly I think that was due to the power-to-weight ratio of the car. Nowadays our Z's have a lot more power. This increased ability to move certainly challenges the driver without VDC. I think the fact is that the market for Z's would be a lot smaller without the computer support.

My first car was a GTO (I am old!). It was way overpowered. One time I hit the gas hard when stopped and I just sat in place burning up my rear tires. It was a very hard car to handle.

I leave VDC on. I also have the automatic (which I frequently shift with the paddles). As a computer person, I figure I should take a cue from top gun fighter pilots. They let their onboard computers do as much work as possible. They reserve their skills for things only a human can manage.

If you are an experienced race car driver, you probably can manage a Z with no problem at all even with VDC off and no ABS. My reflexes and skills are not up to reliably handling the car without some help.

There is no shame is taking advantage of technology to improve safety. I find the VDC lets me slide a little. I don't feel it is taking over often at all.

Super Tanooki · 02-27-2011, 11:26 PM

I've not really ever turned VDC off, yet the car still steps out if I nail it on a curving freeway on-ramp, or spins up if I floor it in first or second in a straight line... I thought VDC was supposed to completely prevent that altogether??

halogodx · 02-28-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Tanooki

I've not really ever turned VDC off, yet the car still steps out if I nail it on a curving freeway on-ramp, or spins up if I floor it in first or second in a straight line... I thought VDC was supposed to completely prevent that altogether??

With it on it'll let you spin it a little before it kicks in. It's meant more along the lines of if you take a onramp too fast say at 80 mph and your back started to slide out to the point where any more will be dangerous/ spin your car that's when it kicks in and cuts power and uses brakes as necessary.....

I found it useful to know the limits of the VDC on my car, went to an empty parking lot and I figured out how much I can push it before it kicks in and helps me out.

Lug · 02-28-2011, 12:41 AM

Anyone willing to turn off VDC is probably living under the illusion that they have miata doors to protect them. Woe unto them when they find out this isn't the case.

b1adesofcha0s · 02-28-2011, 07:39 AM

Idea for some vanity plates:
VDC OFF

tyler20c · 02-28-2011, 12:25 PM

I never drive with the VDC on no matter what the condition. If you try to pull out into traffic and get on it a little too much the VDC can slow your car and put you in harms way. With the VDC off, if the tail kicks out or the tires spin I can control that and keep it going like it should.

LunaZ · 02-28-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler20c

I never drive with the VDC on no matter what the condition. If you try to pull out into traffic and get on it a little too much the VDC can slow your car and put you in harms way. With the VDC off, if the tail kicks out or the tires spin I can control that and keep it going like it should.

I say avoid getting "on it a little too much." That counts as driver error in my book, VDC on or off.
And now begins the debate as to which is faster; Accelerating smoothly with no wheelspin, or controlled slipping of the tires.

Exhibit A: YouTube - Drag Race! 2012 Nissan GT-R vs 2011 Chevy Corvette Z06 vs 2011 Shelby GT500

chuckd05 · 02-28-2011, 03:14 PM

F*^^ vdc.... Lmao

But I leave it on unless I know I'm going to be using the car for what it can do.

02-28-2011, 06:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
18whisky Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Arkansas Posts: 9 Drives: 370Z Peal white Rep Power: 15	It was at 600am the temperature was 29 deegres going to work, the deal is I was making a right turn at 30mph hit black ice and the car went sideways, to corrected I had to push the throttle and do a powerslide. With VDC on I bet the car woulded caught greep and problably lost control. I was not specting that to happend. I think everybody needs to learn what your car is capable off so when this moments comes you know what to do.

02-27-2011, 11:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigrob126 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 134 Drives: 2009 370Z Sport Auto Rep Power: 15	I cant speak for anyone else here, but for me, the VDC takes the fun out of driving the car, or any fast car for that matter. I like to let the car get squirly, or fishtail when I cut a corner quickly if I so desire. Thats such fun.....as long as Mr policeman doesn't see you doing it, and naturally you have to be careful for safety reasons as well, but as I said earlier, you gotta know you and your vehicle's limitations, and if you are not comfortable, or sure of yourself, best leave that button alone! __________________ Rob Last edited by bigrob126; 02-28-2011 at 12:10 AM.

02-28-2011, 12:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	Anyone willing to turn off VDC is probably living under the illusion that they have miata doors to protect them. Woe unto them when they find out this isn't the case. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

02-28-2011, 03:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	F*^^ vdc.... Lmao But I leave it on unless I know I'm going to be using the car for what it can do. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

02-27-2011, 11:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	People wreck them now, what is your point. Have you seen the insurance rate on the 370, it is quite high. My Corvette and 911 were cheaper

02-27-2011, 11:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Super Tanooki Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 217 Drives: 370Z MT Base/Spt Red Rep Power: 16	I've not really ever turned VDC off, yet the car still steps out if I nail it on a curving freeway on-ramp, or spins up if I floor it in first or second in a straight line... I thought VDC was supposed to completely prevent that altogether??

02-28-2011, 07:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	Idea for some vanity plates: VDC OFF

02-28-2011, 12:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
tyler20c Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 174 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 15	I never drive with the VDC on no matter what the condition. If you try to pull out into traffic and get on it a little too much the VDC can slow your car and put you in harms way. With the VDC off, if the tail kicks out or the tires spin I can control that and keep it going like it should.