took vdc off

onzedge · 03-07-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

Oh, me too!
I want a penny for everyone who doesn't know the difference between their/there/they're, brake/break, your/you're, pedal/peddle, heel/heal and when to use an apostrophe s.

For example: Racer's say they put the ball of there foot on the break peddle and use the side to blip the throttle. This will help you when when your using heal and toe for downshifting.

Make me an instant millionaire.

LunaZ -- your post is awesome and correct. Read the forum to see how the education system is failing. Some say it does not matter that hardly anyone (it seems) can actually build a sentence anymore. I disagree.

JARblue · 03-07-2011, 05:07 PM

VDC off, SRM off = you're in control

For daily driving, most everyone should leave VDC on. I turn it off before certain maneuvers that I know are upcoming when I want to have some fun. I also turn it off immediately when giving anyone who's never ridden in the car a quick spin. Otherwise, it's pretty much on (still in break-in period).

If you drive this car with VDC on vs VDC off and don't notice a difference, then you need to understand this car can handle a lot more than your giving it. Having the car for only a week, several times I have forgotten to take off VDC during a turn and been surprised at how significantly the power to the rear wheels is dumped, knowing how much different the turn would have been with VDC off.

VDC and SRM are tools for the average driving enthusiast (I hope most people buying a Z are) to enjoy this car in a manner they might otherwise not be able to without time, money, or both. I for one am thankful for my friends (with access to nice, fast cars) have helped me develop my driving ability to handle this car the way it was meant to be driven. With VDC off (SRM on for beginners) and a little bit of practice you can throw this car all over the road without depressing the accelerator more than half way. I am truly in awe and can't wait to get some time at the track.

SeattleLion · 03-07-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

My point was a lot more people wrecked their cars before we got things like VDC.

Not sure what the insurance rate on the Z has to do with it...

I also think that sports cars (not counting the 'vette in this discussion) had a lot less power in the old days. My 240 was very hard to spin even though there was nothing at all electronic in it. Mostly I think that was due to the power-to-weight ratio of the car. Nowadays our Z's have a lot more power. This increased ability to move certainly challenges the driver without VDC. I think the fact is that the market for Z's would be a lot smaller without the computer support.

My first car was a GTO (I am old!). It was way overpowered. One time I hit the gas hard when stopped and I just sat in place burning up my rear tires. It was a very hard car to handle.

I leave VDC on. I also have the automatic (which I frequently shift with the paddles). As a computer person, I figure I should take a cue from top gun fighter pilots. They let their onboard computers do as much work as possible. They reserve their skills for things only a human can manage.

If you are an experienced race car driver, you probably can manage a Z with no problem at all even with VDC off and no ABS. My reflexes and skills are not up to reliably handling the car without some help.

There is no shame is taking advantage of technology to improve safety. I find the VDC lets me slide a little. I don't feel it is taking over often at all.

cossie1600 · 03-08-2011, 12:15 AM

I lapped VIR at over 5 sec slower per lap with the VDC on, the end....

houkouonchi · 03-18-2011, 05:15 AM

Another experience with VDC turned off and loosing traction. This time I actually had completely forgotten that I had turned the VDC off! DOH!

There was a car stopped in the fast lane on the freeway. I wasn't able to change lanes before catching up to it and completely stopping. When I had a chance I went into the carpool lane (and stepped on it to get up to traffic speed again) and the damn VDC kicked in during my accel. It pissed me off so I turned it off.

Around 20 minutes later I was picking up some food and heading home. I ended up turning left much sharper than usual as I had to wait for a car to go by turning left on a light that was turning red and the rear tires lost grip again:

It could just be me but it seems like recovering from this in the 370Z is a lot easier than other cars I have driven (like a 280Z). I am guessing because the fact it has a LSD?

wdkwang · 03-18-2011, 10:09 PM

imo, people who live in areas that are hot year round with minimal or no rain/snow like Las Vegas and Arizona don't have to worry about less than ideal climates. so you're less likely to end up wrapped around a pole.
to get over my fears of driving with vdc off, i went to a large empty field and let it rip. i realized that the car's tail will come out regardless but it's surprisingly easy to correct with one hand. although there was one time on the street the z fishtailed like crazy on me on dry pavement. totally didn't see that coming

wdkwang · 03-18-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

Yeah.. Here is a little vid of me taking a turn at a light and as soon as I shifted into second the rear started going out a bit on me but with how much grip these tries have it recovers pretty easily:

do u record urself everywhere u go, or are u just having fun with your new Go Pro

houkouonchi · 03-18-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang

do u record urself everywhere u go, or are u just having fun with your new Go Pro

I record myself everywhere I go.

wdkwang · 03-18-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

I record myself everywhere I go.

i can see how that can benefit you as evidence when if you get harassed by cops or get into an accident

houkouonchi · 03-19-2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang

i can see how that can benefit you as evidence when if you get harassed by cops or get into an accident

Those are the two biggest reasons I do it. I don't always record though as the camera angle is to low if there is a passenger in the car (rare) so I only record when I am by myself in the car.

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03-07-2011, 05:07 PM	#107 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	VDC off, SRM off = you're in control For daily driving, most everyone should leave VDC on. I turn it off before certain maneuvers that I know are upcoming when I want to have some fun. I also turn it off immediately when giving anyone who's never ridden in the car a quick spin. Otherwise, it's pretty much on (still in break-in period). If you drive this car with VDC on vs VDC off and don't notice a difference, then you need to understand this car can handle a lot more than your giving it. Having the car for only a week, several times I have forgotten to take off VDC during a turn and been surprised at how significantly the power to the rear wheels is dumped, knowing how much different the turn would have been with VDC off. VDC and SRM are tools for the average driving enthusiast (I hope most people buying a Z are) to enjoy this car in a manner they might otherwise not be able to without time, money, or both. I for one am thankful for my friends (with access to nice, fast cars) have helped me develop my driving ability to handle this car the way it was meant to be driven. With VDC off (SRM on for beginners) and a little bit of practice you can throw this car all over the road without depressing the accelerator more than half way. I am truly in awe and can't wait to get some time at the track.

03-08-2011, 12:15 AM	#109 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	I lapped VIR at over 5 sec slower per lap with the VDC on, the end....

03-18-2011, 05:15 AM	#110 (permalink)
houkouonchi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario, California Posts: 440 Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z Rep Power: 14	Another experience with VDC turned off and loosing traction. This time I actually had completely forgotten that I had turned the VDC off! DOH! There was a car stopped in the fast lane on the freeway. I wasn't able to change lanes before catching up to it and completely stopping. When I had a chance I went into the carpool lane (and stepped on it to get up to traffic speed again) and the damn VDC kicked in during my accel. It pissed me off so I turned it off. Around 20 minutes later I was picking up some food and heading home. I ended up turning left much sharper than usual as I had to wait for a car to go by turning left on a light that was turning red and the rear tires lost grip again: It could just be me but it seems like recovering from this in the 370Z is a lot easier than other cars I have driven (like a 280Z). I am guessing because the fact it has a LSD?