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Originally Posted by Niche79 This is from Wiki....take it with a grain of salt, but if these numbers hold true, thats not good signs of a car that will stay

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Old 02-25-2011, 12:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is from Wiki....take it with a grain of salt, but if these numbers hold true, thats not good signs of a car that will stay around long

Calendar Year U.S. Sales
2009 13,117
2010 10,215


And for the previous Poster about the Camaro sales:
Year Sales
2009 61,648
2010 81,299


Then again the Z is meant for a smaller part of the market, vs some jock wanting pure Hp. I think Nissan does a good job in its particular area!
Nissan crapped on the VQ35DE and the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engines that were installed in the 350z's and the G35's.
These were oil burning pieces of crap.
I purchased a 2007 G35 BRAND NEW with the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engine and the engine was burning oil so bad. I sold it with just under 5,000 miles on it.
I took an $8,000 loss on it when I sold it. It took me 1 1/2 years to sell it.
I never drove it from the time I started the selling process.

Nissan didn't even address the problem with a TSB unitl after 3 years later from the 2005 model year "REV-UP" engine that were in the 2005-2006 350z's
and the 2005-2007 G35's (the 2007 G35 sedan and the 2007 350z had the new VQ35HR engine).

But Nissan was telling dealerships to tell customers with the oil burning problems that it was "NORMAL"............Good God!!

1 quart of oil per 1,000 miles is not normal!!!!

Even the replacement short and long blocks under warranty were burning oil.

People that are enthusiasts and repeat buyers WILL NOT FORGET this phenomenal quandary.

Nissan is still selling and marketing an inferior product.
Have they not realesed a TSB for the oil burning problem with the 370z?
They sure Have.

People don't forget. I sure the hell have not.

I was really hoping the 370z was back in the game for a reliable sports car without the oil burning problem.

Nissan North America will read this and acknowledge that this has hurt their bottom line when they attend board meetings.
The economy has taken a dive, sure. But they crapped on the people that bought their products only to be given the run around regarding oil burning issues. You practically had to retain an attorney to recover your loss.

They didn't wait as long to release the TSB for the oil burning issue on the new 370z. It may appear that they have learned something.
BUT, IT IS STILL A PROBLEM!! So in my view, they are still selling crap.

Hence the low volume sales. PERIOD!!!!!!!

So I took the money from the sale of my G35 and bought a Honda Civic and the rest I put into my Yamaha R1 motorcycle.

Screw You Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nissan crapped on the VQ35DE and the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engines that were installed in the 350z's and the G35's.
These were oil burning pieces of crap.
I purchased a 2007 G35 BRAND NEW with the VQ35DE "REV-UP" engine and the engine was burning oil so bad. I sold it with just under 5,000 miles on it.
I took an $8,000 loss on it when I sold it. It took me 1 1/2 years to sell it.
I never drove it from the time I started the selling process.

Nissan didn't even address the problem with a TSB unitl after 3 years later from the 2005 model year "REV-UP" engine that were in the 2005-2006 350z's
and the 2005-2007 G35's (the 2007 G35 sedan and the 2007 350z had the new VQ35HR engine).

But Nissan was telling dealerships to tell customers with the oil burning problems that it was "NORMAL"............Good God!!

1 quart of oil per 1,000 miles is not normal!!!!

Even the replacement short and long blocks under warranty were burning oil.

People that are enthusiasts and repeat buyers WILL NOT FORGET this phenomenal quandary.

Nissan is still selling and marketing an inferior product.
Have they not realesed a TSB for the oil burning problem with the 370z?
They sure Have.

People don't forget. I sure the hell have not.

I was really hoping the 370z was back in the game for a reliable sports car without the oil burning problem.

Nissan North America will read this and acknowledge that this has hurt their bottom line when they attend board meetings.
The economy has taken a dive, sure. But they crapped on the people that bought their products only to be given the run around regarding oil burning issues. You practically had to retain an attorney to recover your loss.

They didn't wait as long to release the TSB for the oil burning issue on the new 370z. It may appear that they have learned something.
BUT, IT IS STILL A PROBLEM!! So in my view, they are still selling crap.

Hence the low volume sales. PERIOD!!!!!!!

So I took the money from the sale of my G35 and bought a Honda Civic and the rest I put into my Yamaha R1 motorcycle.

Screw You Nissan!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh yeh that is because why there are so little people with the problem.

I own a 2009. no oil burning problems here.
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oh yeh that is because why there are so little people with the problem.

I own a 2009. no oil burning problems here.
If so few had the oil burning problems then Nissan would not have issued a TSB.

Nissan issued the TSB because there are significant amounts of engines with the oil burning problem in the 370z.

Think about it.

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But Nissan was telling dealerships to tell customers with the oil burning problems that it was "NORMAL"............Good God!!
1 quart of oil per 1,000 miles is not normal!!!!
Even the replacement short and long blocks under warranty were burning oil.
People that are enthusiasts and repeat buyers WILL NOT FORGET this phenomenal quandary.
Erm, I owned a '06 350z with a revup. Drove it for close to 120k miles before selling it. The first engine burned oil. I went through the TSB replacement guidelines and received a new engine at 59k miles. Not a drop of oil burned after that.

You're correct that they dropped the ball with the revup engine. However, mistakes happen, and as long as it's covered by warranty, I have no problem with them fixing it and me enjoying the vehicle. You need to relax.
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Erm, I owned a '06 350z with a revup. Drove it for close to 120k miles before selling it. The first engine burned oil. I went through the TSB replacement guidelines and received a new engine at 59k miles. Not a drop of oil burned after that.

You're correct that they dropped the ball with the revup engine. However, mistakes happen, and as long as it's covered by warranty, I have no problem with them fixing it and me enjoying the vehicle. You need to relax.
This was simply not a mistake my friend. Nissan tried to deny a problem that truly existed. Nissan did not come forth until three years later.
Nissan dragged their feet on this for as long as they could hoping warranties would be up.

Nissan was denying a problem that existed. Nissan lied to the American consumer that their engines were bullet proof. Dealerships would fill the oil up and tell the owner to come back after 1000 miles for an oil inspection.
When owners came back the dealerships would simply put more oil in and tell the customer that everything was good and that their engines weren't burning oil.

Thousands of engines were bad. Nissan = Filthy stinking liars.

Some people have had good luck. Good for them.
But Nissan kept producing engines that they new were not going to last.
Nissan Corp spit on the American consumer and treated us like consumable trash and laughed all the way to the bank.

This I will not forget or forgive. The problem still exists with the 370z and the G37.

This is not a coincidence.
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This was simply not a mistake my friend. Nissan tried to deny a problem that truly existed. Nissan did not come forth until three years later.
Nissan dragged their feet on this for as long as they could hoping warranties would be up.
They released the TSB 11/27/07. I dunno, whatever.
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They released the TSB 11/27/07. I dunno, whatever.
2005 350z's were being sold in the fall of 2004.

Do the math Mr "I dunno, whatever".

Infiniti released TSB ITB08-002 on 1-10-2008 for Oil Consumption on the 2005-2007 G35 coupe.
Again do the math.

Nissan dragged their butts on this for as long as they could.
They denied it and lied to us.

Nissan spit in our face and you are good with that?

Nissan sale numbers are down for a reason. It's not just the economy.

Nissan Screwed the American consumer.

So Screw You Nissan.

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2005 350z's were being sold in the fall of 2004.

Do the math Mr "I dunno, whatever".

Infiniti released TSB ITB08-002 on 1-10-2008 for Oil Consumption on the 2005-2007 G35 coupe.
Again do the math.

Nissan dragged their butts on this for as long as they could.
They denied it and lied to us.

Nissan spit in our face and you are good with that?

Nissan sale numbers are down for a reason. It's not just the economy.

Nissan Screwed the American consumer.

So Screw You Nissan.
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From your link.

"We finished the year strong, thanks to high demand for bread-and-butter models like Altima, Versa, Sentra and Rogue," said Al Castignetti, vice president and general manager, Nissan division.

End Quote.

The Z dropped 21.4% in sales since last year

The Z did not keep Nissan in the black believe it or not.

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2005 350z's were being sold in the fall of 2004.

Do the math Mr "I dunno, whatever".

Infiniti released TSB ITB08-002 on 1-10-2008 for Oil Consumption on the 2005-2007 G35 coupe.
Again do the math.

Nissan dragged their butts on this for as long as they could.
They denied it and lied to us.

Nissan spit in our face and you are good with that?

Nissan sale numbers are down for a reason. It's not just the economy.

Nissan Screwed the American consumer.

So Screw You Nissan.
The oil burning issue still only hit a small number of cars which makes it tough to actually move forward with anything. Even though you had about 20-30% on the forums complaining, a forum only consist of a small percent of owners overall. Nissan did no lie, sounds like you went to a bad dealership which then you should have reported to Nissan, it takes years to determine things like oil burning or other issues and the right solution. I am sure Nissan could have gone in and started to replace engines, but what if it continued? That is more money out of Nissan's pocket, instead they took the time to figure out the problem and fixed it properly.

Look at other companies, they take 5-10 years to determine issues before making a TSB or recall. I just read one for BMW about fuel pump for cars dating back to 07, GM has some dating back to 2000 and before that just came out.
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