Spoke to Nissan rep at Philly car show

ZYGOTE · 01-31-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

You guys know that a Camaro weighs like 3500+pounds right? I dont think the Z has to worry much about V6 Camaros or Stangs (which top out at I think like 117mph or some crap) I think the stock 370 holds its own pretty well against the 400+hp Stang and Camaro. Its just as fast or faster to 60, I mean yea the V8's run away from it in the quarter but not but leaps and bounds. And I would hope nissan would wait more then like 3 years to make a big change like that. I mean from like what 04-08 the 350 only gained like 20hp correct???

Simple fact is, the 370 shouldn't be competing with the likes of the V6 Mustangs and Camaros, their competition is the V8 counterparts, which both meet or exceed the Z's performance. Also, there are other cars in our rear view mirror, such as the Genesis Coupe, that are rumored to be getting huge power bumps in the near future. Nissan has to act quickly.

Also, the Z went from 287hp in 2003 and ended at 306hp in 2008. However the changes were much deeper than that, as the HR engines were far superior to the DE engines that the 2003's came with.

red6spd · 01-31-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYGOTE

Simple fact is, the 370 shouldn't be competing with the likes of the V6 Mustangs and Camaros, their competition is the V8 counterparts, which both meet or exceed the Z's performance. Also, there are other cars in our rear view mirror, such as the Genesis Coupe, that are rumored to be getting huge power bumps in the near future. Nissan has to act quickly.

Also, the Z went from 287hp in 2003 and ended at 306hp in 2008. However the changes were much deeper than that, as the HR engines were far superior to the DE engines that the 2003's came with.

You guys are the ones saying the Z is competing with V6 Stangs and Camaros, but its really not. HP is not everything. Look at the S2k when it first came out, that car had simialr HP to lets say a Maxima or a V6 Accord, but it was alot faster, faster then the Stangs at the times correct? The V6 versions of the Stang and Camaros are hitting the quarter in High 13's low 14's, thats competion for the Z??? I dont know anything about these "hp bumps" for the Genesis you speak of, but there car now is a 14 second car, so maybe the next gen will be about as fast as the Z, there is nothing wrong with that. If you wanted a car that went straight fast and braked bad you should have purcahsed one of those american cars.

toxik · 01-31-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

You guys are the ones saying the Z is competing with V6 Stangs and Camaros, but its really not. HP is not everything. Look at the S2k when it first came out, that car had simialr HP to lets say a Maxima or a V6 Accord, but it was alot faster, faster then the Stangs at the times correct? The V6 versions of the Stang and Camaros are hitting the quarter in High 13's low 14's, thats competion for the Z??? I dont know anything about these "hp bumps" for the Genesis you speak of, but there car now is a 14 second car, so maybe the next gen will be about as fast as the Z, there is nothing wrong with that. If you wanted a car that went straight fast and braked bad you should have purcahsed one of those american cars.

lol look at your mod list, you're not really modding your car for going around corners fast.

Sibze · 01-31-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

lol look at your mod list, you're not really modding your car for going around corners fast.

Ya, the JDM Rear Fog with OEM Harness has HP gain all over it

kenchan · 01-31-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

lol look at your mod list, you're not really modding your car for going around corners fast.

nnn?

red's mods are: 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. 339WHP 252WTQ

red6spd · 01-31-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

lol look at your mod list, you're not really modding your car for going around corners fast.

Because I dont think there is much I have to do to make this car a better handling car which is why I started with the performance first.That plus the closest track from me is around 100+miles away in Jersey. Its also nice to add parts that look nice (CBE) and make the car stand out in the sound department, where as suspension parts do nothing for visual except lowering the car. If it makes you feel better should I list mods that I plan on doing in the future??? Like braces, swaybars, coil overs or springs????? Sorry for defending our cars.

P.S I think adding HP to a car would help it go faster around a track. Or no, you tell me???

Endgame · 01-31-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYGOTE

Simple fact is, the 370 shouldn't be competing with the likes of the V6 Mustangs and Camaros, their competition is the V8 counterparts, which both meet or exceed the Z's performance. Also, there are other cars in our rear view mirror, such as the Genesis Coupe, that are rumored to be getting huge power bumps in the near future. Nissan has to act quickly.

Also, the Z went from 287hp in 2003 and ended at 306hp in 2008. However the changes were much deeper than that, as the HR engines were far superior to the DE engines that the 2003's came with.

Do not forget that the SAE HP ratings standards changed between these models. The HP increase was more like 30 to 35 over the DE.

kenchan · 01-31-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

You guys know that a Camaro weighs like 3500+pounds right? I dont think the Z has to worry much about V6 Camaros or Stangs (which top out at I think like 117mph or some crap) I think the stock 370 holds its own pretty well against the 400+hp Stang and Camaro. Its just as fast or faster to 60, I mean yea the V8's run away from it in the quarter but not but leaps and bounds. And I would hope nissan would wait more then like 3 years to make a big change like that. I mean from like what 04-08 the 350 only gained like 20hp correct???

dang it, i forgot to bring the junk candy and snacks i had at home to work for the unhealthy folks to munch on... with all the overweight going around they will have heartattacks in no time...one efficient way to get rid of people who you dont like at work. bring munchies.

Decoy_TT · 03-03-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

You guys know that a Camaro weighs like 3500+pounds right? I dont think the Z has to worry much about V6 Camaros or Stangs (which top out at I think like 117mph or some crap) I think the stock 370 holds its own pretty well against the 400+hp Stang and Camaro. Its just as fast or faster to 60, I mean yea the V8's run away from it in the quarter but not but leaps and bounds. And I would hope nissan would wait more then like 3 years to make a big change like that. I mean from like what 04-08 the 350 only gained like 20hp correct???

Why in God's name would you WANT them to not make changes that increase efficiency and lead to rather large horsepower gains?

Are you upset that you didn't get it if it happens or something?

Cmike2780 · 03-03-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Decoy_TT

Why in God's name would you WANT them to not make changes that increase efficiency and lead to rather large horsepower gains?

Are you upset that you didn't get it if it happens or something?

I don't think that's what he's saying.

Decoy_TT · 03-03-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I don't think that's what he's saying.

Then please tell me how you interpret this statement.

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Originally Posted by red6spd

And I would hope nissan would wait more then like 3 years to make a big change like that.

He hopes it doesn't happen. Also known as he doesn't want them to make this change.

daisuke149 · 03-03-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Decoy_TT

Then please tell me how you interpret this statement.

He hopes it doesn't happen. Also known as he doesn't want them to make this change.

maybe my comprehension is bad... but it looks like hes saying that he hopes they wait 3 years to do it.

I dont see him saying "I hope they never do"

And I agree they should wait. Companies shouldnt keep making changes every year. Its bad for business, it drives up costs, and that impacts us by making all cars more expensive.

Lemers · 01-31-2011, 01:41 PM

Don't forget. DI isn't about HP gains it's about fuel efficiency and meeting Upcoming Government regulations. So if Nissan needs to bring up their average MPGs this change seems logical.

kenchan · 01-31-2011, 01:57 PM

professordave- we should go get some charburgers next time... add cheeze fries too.

JJ-NISMO · 01-31-2011, 05:05 PM

Interesting news and I definitely think the rumor has validity. Emission regulations and everything else included, it makes sense. Even with all of that, the class that the 370 competes in seems to be in somewhat of a horsepower war. Going past the 350hp mark for the base, and bumping up against 400 for the Nismo will probably attract more buyers even with a small price increase.

If this is true, I will be a little annoyed and definitely wish I had the DI.

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