Trade-in for a Cayman S. :)

dad · 12-12-2010, 02:19 AM

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2010 vette 0% interest.

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zmyride · 12-12-2010, 04:08 AM

I've been contemplating a new cayman s too but my Z sports is only 11 months old , not ready to give it up yet. A new S with taxes would be around $70k I could get two Zs with that money. Dollar for dollar I think a Z is a Better value.

I might just get a couple years old S for around $40k and save about $25k. It's very tempting.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

I've been contemplating a new cayman s too but my Z sports is only 11 months old , not ready to give it up yet. A new S with taxes would be around $70k I could get two Zs with that money. Dollar for dollar I think a Z is a Better value.

I might just get a couple years old S for around $40k and save about $25k. It's very tempting.

I think a car is more than the sum of its monetary value. For example, you could get 2 Corvettes (C5) for the price of one 370Z.

However, you couldn't drive both of them, could you? Obviously you like the Z more than the C5, so that's what you got.

Value is a personal thing.

Zsteve · 12-12-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

I've been contemplating a new cayman s too but my Z sports is only 11 months old , not ready to give it up yet. A new S with taxes would be around $70k I could get two Zs with that money. Dollar for dollar I think a Z is a Better value.I might just get a couple years old S for around $40k and save about $25k. It's very tempting.

Only if money is an issue. Most who buy highend cars, its not. In the vette forum I was surprised how many paid cash for their 60K car. The Dollar for dollar game is played by those who have to buy according to their income and want to justify thier choice of car. Im sure if you had a million dollars you wouldnt be in a Z. Right now the new stang beats the Z in dollar for dollar too for the price range and performance most of us here have to go by.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Only if money is an issue. Most who buy highend cars, its not. In the vette forum I was surprised how many paid cash for their 60K car. The Dollar for dollar game is played by those who have to buy according to their income and want to justify thier choice of car. Im sure if you had a million dollars you wouldnt be in a Z. Right now the new stang beats the Z in dollar for dollar too for the price range and performance most of us here have to go by.

The 'vette is marketed toward a demographic that makes well over 6-figures a year. Hell, the average WS6/SS F-body customer made around 70K a year from what I recall. Those were 90's dollars, too, lol.

A lot of those guys are older, and have bought/sold many 'vettes previously. The younger ones are usually military and ratholed their money instead of burning it on bitches and booze. Or really dedicated guys like me who live small and put 1/3 of their gross income into a savings account until we scrape up 20% down or so and get the bank to take us on.

Zsteve · 12-12-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The 'vette is marketed toward a demographic that makes well over 6-figures a year. Hell, the average WS6/SS F-body customer made around 70K a year from what I recall. Those were 90's dollars, too, lol.

A lot of those guys are older, and have bought/sold many 'vettes previously. The younger ones are usually military and ratholed their money instead of burning it on bitches and booze. Or really dedicated guys like me who live small and put 1/3 of their gross income into a savings account until we scrape up 20% down or so and get the bank to take us on.

This is true. The vette forum is kinda boring and alot of them old guys dont beleive in modding the car or going over the speed limit. Why buy a 430 hp/427tq car and not use it? Some get the Z06 and never use the power. Alot have paid cash for thier cars too. Most are retired military officers who can be stuck up. My dad was an officer and of course with 21 yrs in the army Ive seen some stuck up officers, and some good ones too. But I think most got the vette as a status quo thing. Not me I wanted the power.

ImportConvert · 12-12-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

This is true. The vette forum is kinda boring and alot of them old guys dont beleive in modding the car or going over the speed limit. Why buy a 430 hp/427tq car and not use it? Some get the Z06 and never use the power. Alot have paid cash for thier cars too. Most are retired military officers who can be stuck up. My dad was an officer and of course with 21 yrs in the army Ive seen some stuck up officers, and some good ones too. But I think most got the vette as a status quo thing. Not me I wanted the power.

Eh, what section are you hanging out in? TONS! of modded 'vettes in the Z06 section. I see cam/E85 conversions claiming 600+whp all the time, etc. Lots of FI, on and on. Way more modding happening there than the "Should I get a Nismo cat-back and does it need a tune?" going on here.

Zsteve · 12-12-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Eh, what section are you hanging out in? TONS! of modded 'vettes in the Z06 section. I see cam/E85 conversions claiming 600+whp all the time, etc. Lots of FI, on and on. Way more modding happening there than the "Should I get a Nismo cat-back and does it need a tune?" going on here.

Yea the general section seems to be where the non modders hang and the tech for the modders.

URNEXT! · 12-13-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Eh, what section are you hanging out in? TONS! of modded 'vettes in the Z06 section. I see cam/E85 conversions claiming 600+whp all the time, etc. Lots of FI, on and on. Way more modding happening there than the "Should I get a Nismo cat-back and does it need a tune?" going on here.

I laughed at this comparison but you're right. I don't know if it's the small aftermarket that's available to us, junk economy or a combination of things but the "mod culture" is a little different for the 370. It would be cool to see more nasty 370s on the forums and I hope with time more will be built. I see great potential with the VVL

For the OP thinking about the Cayman... wouldn't get it. I think it's one of those cars you would be happy with for 6 months and then regret the purchase. I would get into a used C6 ZO6, Viper or even a GTR for the price range of that car.

mick · 12-12-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Only if money is an issue. Most who buy highend cars, its not. In the vette forum I was surprised how many paid cash for their 60K car. The Dollar for dollar game is played by those who have to buy according to their income and want to justify thier choice of car. Im sure if you had a million dollars you wouldnt be in a Z. Right now the new stang beats the Z in dollar for dollar too for the price range and performance most of us here have to go by.

when (billionaire) tom cruise appeared in top gear, jeremy clarkson asked him what car he drove. cruise said he drove mostly motorcycles and flew airplanes. i guess a car is too slow for him

cab83_750 · 12-17-2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

I've been contemplating a new cayman s too but my Z sports is only 11 months old , not ready to give it up yet. A new S with taxes would be around $70k I could get two Zs with that money. Dollar for dollar I think a Z is a Better value.

I might just get a couple years old S for around $40k and save about $25k. It's very tempting.

I have never seen an S for $40k. non-s are in the high 30s. Maybe end of 2011, the first gen S could hit high 30s or low 40s.

optiontrader · 12-12-2010, 08:32 PM

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Interesting - the slow sales seem even more widespread that I thought. Is the government padding the durable goods reports every month?

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zmyride Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 631 Drives: 10 Black Sports 7AT Rep Power: 18	I've been contemplating a new cayman s too but my Z sports is only 11 months old , not ready to give it up yet. A new S with taxes would be around $70k I could get two Zs with that money. Dollar for dollar I think a Z is a Better value. I might just get a couple years old S for around $40k and save about $25k. It's very tempting.