Stillen Supercharged Article - R & T

Red__Zed · 10-30-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

ya gotta understand man, not too many cars running street tires are going to have fast 1/4 mile times, when you have that much power, all you're going to do is spin in the pit, you need stickier tires to launch harder, 500+ hp on the stockers is way too much for those tires to handle.

My S ran high 10's on street tires, Invo's at that. It can be done with proper driving.

whoady4shoady · 10-30-2010, 10:28 AM

Im sorry, but that is just straight pathetic even on street tires IMHO.

zman1910 · 10-29-2010, 10:38 PM

The times look pretty good to me. I don't know about the car having 500hp though. I'd like to see the dyno chart and what kind of dyno was being used to calculate this '500hp' and under what conditions. It's about on par with an E92 M3.

Mercennarius · 10-30-2010, 08:42 AM

That car should be running LOW 12s/HIGH 11s at around 116+MPH given the power its said to be making. Driver mod maybe?

Red370 · 10-30-2010, 11:28 AM

whelp, I guess its time for the TT boys to man up and put down some times so we can do an accurate FI comparo yeah?

Red370 · 10-30-2010, 11:32 AM

lets put this into perspective a bit, the 2010 GT500 makes 540bhp and 480ft/lbs, the 1/4 mile avg amongst all mags places it at a 12.5 second 1/4 mile, yes, its heavier, got it, but 3 tenths off, yall arent giving this car any credit whatsoever.

ImportConvert · 10-30-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

lets put this into perspective a bit, the 2010 GT500 makes 540bhp and 480ft/lbs, the 1/4 mile avg amongst all mags places it at a 12.5 second 1/4 mile, yes, its heavier, got it, but 3 tenths off, yall arent giving this car any credit whatsoever.

Of course not, because the 2011 GT500 with 480rwhp and 3750# curb-weight (not counting driver) does the 1/4 in 12.1@119 or so. The 12.5@115 or whatever was the old 500bhp 3900# GT500. This "500bhp" Z with it's lighter weight and wider tires couldn't even match THAT.

christian370z · 10-30-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Of course not, because the 2011 GT500 with 480rwhp and 3750# curb-weight (not counting driver) does the 1/4 in 12.1@119 or so. The 12.5@115 or whatever was the old 500bhp 3900# GT500. This "500bhp" Z with it's lighter weight and wider tires couldn't even match THAT.

Why are you always so negative and pessimistic on everything you post? The largest variable in the testing equation is the driver, not to mention whatever the quality of the road surface they test on is. That is not saying that is the reason for the numbers, but comparing a Mustang with a completely different rear suspension setup (tailored more towards straight line acceleration as well) to the Z is not the most direct comparison.

ImportConvert · 10-30-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Why are you always so negative and pessimistic on everything you post? The largest variable in the testing equation is the driver, not to mention whatever the quality of the road surface they test on is. That is not saying that is the reason for the numbers, but comparing a Mustang with a completely different rear suspension setup (tailored more towards straight line acceleration as well) to the Z is not the most direct comparison.

I call it like I see it. A 500bhp 3300# car should trap higher than 113mph. The fact that it even made it into the 12's tells me it had enough traction for better than a 113 trap if it's truly making 500bhp. The car is not making 500bhp. If you think it is, provide evidence. However, the magazine knocked around 1 second off and added 10mph trap speed--same driver/conditions. That is 100whp. That is 432bhp. May be off by 20, 30, 40bhp, but even so---it's not 500bhp.

Mag350Z · 10-30-2010, 06:01 PM

need to see before and after dyno on the same car, on the same dyno..I really doubt that car is making 500 SAE HP..the numbers do not add up

Lug · 10-30-2010, 03:22 PM

I;ve seen 0-60 numbers fron 4.6 to 5.3. I just wouldn't put too much stock in one mag's numbrs especially since R&T already posted very slow (compared to average) numbers for the Z.

Z eliminator · 10-30-2010, 05:10 PM

My 7 AT with bolt on's is quicker than the stillen Z and i ran those times on the stock 19 inch tires. It makes 320 RWHP. It almost went 12.7's and now i trap at just under 113 mph. (12.8009 ).
I would like to see the time slip.

Mike · 10-30-2010, 06:26 PM

I don't know. I may not be the best drag racer, but my supercharged LS2 C6 ran the qtr in the same time with 114 trap speeds on street tires, and it had 515 to the wheels. It didn't have any traction, but it definitely had power.

RCZ · 10-30-2010, 07:18 PM

Same here, I think If I optimized my car for drag racing I could run 11's. As it sits now id be somewhere in the mid 12's.

atx370z · 10-30-2010, 07:57 PM

You can purchase and have the dealer install a stillen s/c for 8k?....

10-30-2010, 11:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	whelp, I guess its time for the TT boys to man up and put down some times so we can do an accurate FI comparo yeah? __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

10-30-2010, 11:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	lets put this into perspective a bit, the 2010 GT500 makes 540bhp and 480ft/lbs, the 1/4 mile avg amongst all mags places it at a 12.5 second 1/4 mile, yes, its heavier, got it, but 3 tenths off, yall arent giving this car any credit whatsoever. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

10-30-2010, 03:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	I;ve seen 0-60 numbers fron 4.6 to 5.3. I just wouldn't put too much stock in one mag's numbrs especially since R&T already posted very slow (compared to average) numbers for the Z. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

10-30-2010, 05:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 20	My 7 AT with bolt on's is quicker than the stillen Z and i ran those times on the stock 19 inch tires. It makes 320 RWHP. It almost went 12.7's and now i trap at just under 113 mph. (12.8009 ). I would like to see the time slip. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

10-30-2010, 06:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	I don't know. I may not be the best drag racer, but my supercharged LS2 C6 ran the qtr in the same time with 114 trap speeds on street tires, and it had 515 to the wheels. It didn't have any traction, but it definitely had power. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-30-2010, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
whoady4shoady A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,088 Drives: 09 Silver Nismo Rep Power: 19	Im sorry, but that is just straight pathetic even on street tires IMHO.

10-29-2010, 10:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
zman1910 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: FL Posts: 361 Drives: 2011 Audi S4 Rep Power: 429	The times look pretty good to me. I don't know about the car having 500hp though. I'd like to see the dyno chart and what kind of dyno was being used to calculate this '500hp' and under what conditions. It's about on par with an E92 M3.

10-30-2010, 08:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mercennarius Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 160 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 17	That car should be running LOW 12s/HIGH 11s at around 116+MPH given the power its said to be making. Driver mod maybe?

10-30-2010, 06:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mag350Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 95 Drives: 2011 GS Corvette Rep Power: 16	need to see before and after dyno on the same car, on the same dyno..I really doubt that car is making 500 SAE HP..the numbers do not add up

10-30-2010, 07:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Same here, I think If I optimized my car for drag racing I could run 11's. As it sits now id be somewhere in the mid 12's.

10-30-2010, 07:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
atx370z Track Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 637 Drives: 10 370Z T/S M6 Rep Power: 16	You can purchase and have the dealer install a stillen s/c for 8k?.... __________________ Berk HFC & CBE, Stillen G3's, AMS Crank Pulley, JWT Flywheel, 4.08 Gears, UpRev, H&R Springs and 20mm Spacers, JDM Rear Fog, EVO-R Front Lip and CF Upper Cover, 305's

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