Low 4's is the new standard for sporty cars. The 'vette does it, the mustang does it, most of the 911 family does it, the thew Z28 should do it, the CTS-V does it, the Hynudai Genesis should do it with the 5.0 it's getting.

It's 0-100 that matters more, though, I think. Even an Evo will do mid 4's to 60, but 0-100? Not so hot.

440 HP, 380 lb's torque, and 3630 Lbs......sounds about right. M3 killer for $15,000 to $20,000 cheaper. :D

0-100 matters more? because everyone does 0-100mph pulls through town huh? to me, 0-60 times matter most because thats the kinda zip you'll actually use with DD use.

Who races in town?

0-100 tells you more about the power/weight. 0-60 tells you about the driveline/tires/gears.

Most of my driving involves 0-35. I think magazines should report that. And how stable the cup holders are.

They do. 0-10, on up to 0-150, in 10mph increments. At least, the new 5.0 GT and 370Z review I read shows it.

who said anything about racing? the speed limits in my area range from 35-55. Which is why 0-60 matters to me, get up and go is what I appreciate, not top end 150mph pulls.

Even then, 0-60 times are a 10/10ths, perfect conditions, WOT number. That doesn't describe daily life for most folks. It merely describes max capabilities.

Lol, we all know everyone here has gone over the speed limit even if it is a little. No point in buying a car because it is faster 0-60.

I honestly don't know one person that has bought a sports car/muscle car that has never gone over the speed limit. On top of that I have never met anyone that bought a sports car/muscle car just to drive under the speed limit all the time.

I don't endorse street racing but it's a fact that everyone here doesn't follow the rules down to the teeth every minute of their lives. Also, don't get me wrong, I am all about buying cars that you love and enjoy the most. So if you want a 5.0 more than a 370z, go for it. If you are happy I am too. I don't like stomping on people's feelings unless I know they are just out of line.

No on this forum speeds, ever.
Just do not look at my Camp II. :p

I care more about things like 20-80 times, they indicate more accurately how fast the car feels.

Especially when you've got cars like the EVO and STI, where their 0-60 times in the mag have very little bearing on how the car feels around town, unless you're dropping the clutch at 6k...

If you want a sports car get a Z.. If you want a muscle car that starts falling apart at 25,000 miles, get a Ford. The quality of the Z is sooo much better..

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Maybe he just drag-races light to light never exceeding 60 or competing against anyone else. Who knows?

I agree, like I said, 0-60 is about driveline, not engine. I think the poster bought the wrong car if he bought a 370Z for 0-60 when little pocket-rockets like the EVO and STI are out there. He cheated himself out of a lot of fun on his daily commute.

I have to disagree. The 350Z wasn't that great (plastic EVERYWHERE, rear-end and oil-consumpton issues, blah blah blah), and I think the 2005+ mustang's were much better built (no real issues with them that I was aware of. I worked for Ford when they came out and we never had any in for anything but oil-changes).

The 370Z has a nicer interior for sure, but then so does the 2011 mustang. I think that mechanically, the mustang is AT LEAST as sound as the 370Z. As far as "feel" goes, I think the Z has a better lay-out, but that isn't about quality, it's ergonomics.

But police will issue tickets for exhibition of speed; either way, you get a ticket...

That said, I wonder who police will target more: The 5.0 or the 370?

Good to know!:tup: I can also see how the 20-60 sort of assessment would be very relevant, too.

But I really want to know if my coffee will spill all over in the cup holder of the 5.0, just like it does in my Z. With a lid. And a spill guard.

Could be the driver, though :rolleyes:

Test drove the mustang, challenger, and camaro several times before buying my 370Z. In my opinion the Z is more responsive in handling. Better center of gravity. Fit and finish is better, overall lay out is better.

I agree with that. I love the interior/layout of the Z. However, mechanically I think the new mustang is just as good.

its pretty impressive that you know a car that just came out car will start falling apart at 25,000 miles.

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You have to be a moron to think that just about any car these days will fall apart that soon. I know he's probably just being a smartass, but c'mon. Ford ranks higher than Nissan in quality and has for some time.

I know from owning both cars that the Z is not built better than the Mustang and the Mustang is not built better than the Z. They both use the same high quality materials and a Premium GT is very comparable to a Touring 370. I do have to say, though, that the leather-wrapped center stack on the 370 goes a LONG way on creating a posh feel, especially coupled with the faux-suede seat inserts and door cards. And it's just hard to beat Japanese ergonomics.

FWIW, the older Fords may have been built with some crappy interiors but they were far from unreliable. My sister is still driving her 2002 Mustang which has over 150,000 miles on it and has only been in for oil changes.

You can expect any mechanically sound car go to that long without issue assuming YOU take care of it properly! :tup:

*oops* BRB guys, my engine just fell out. Anyone got some duct tape? :bowrofl:

Duct tape, dude just grab some glue and you will be fine.

JB Weld! :tup:

It works for turbos.

oh man, I almost forgot that thread, I think I need to reminisce :icon17:

So I was watching Spike today (Horsepower TV maybe?), and they were putting a 5.0 ford motor in a Factory Five hot rod coupe. Anyway, they dynoed the engine, and got 460+ BHP out it. I'm pretty sure it was stock. Is this the case? Does the GT have that output (which is well over the 412 advertised power)?

Well I know it was on an engine dyno and I don't know if they had any emissions controls on it, but I've seen stock dynos in the 380-400 whp range so it's possible.

Well, an open exhaust since the stock exhaust would not work would help pump out some power.

Engine had some kind of exhaust hooked onto it, and I could see cats at the end of the headers (which were very nicely designed IMO).

Yeah the OEM headers are pretty killer. We don't see quite the gains with exhaust that you guys do since the factory exhaust was engineered so well.

yeah, Ford went all out engineering these things for power, its almost like they added aftermarket headers along with a sweet H-pipe. Only gripe I have about the factory exhaust is the crimps they put in it to get it to clear the cross member and rear axle. And yeah, a few guys are dyno'ing around 390whp and 360wtq, and if you factor in 15% drivetrain loss, its making around 440bhp and 405 ft/lbs, so its not entirely out of the question. Another funny thing is that they seem to pick up another 10whp/ft.lbs after the engine has reached 1500 miles or so.

I think I'm going to do the Steeda CAI and tune after my springs and shocks. That is if I don't order a blower... lol. 525 warrantied whp would be pretty sweet.

but then you're sitting at GT500 power, and I sir, say NO to that. Kenne Bell or bust!

Having driven a few 550 plus whp mustangs before I can tell you that any more power is useless unless you prefer highways or are building a track only machine.

true true, I tell ya what though man, I almost got embarrassed last night by one of the 3.7's, I was at a stop light where the speed limit is 55mph (always down for a spirited run up to the speed limit), he hole shotted me, I spun for a good bit, of course I slingshotted past him once I gripped but I do agree, any more power and it becomes almost useless. I couldnt believe the audacity that guy had though:icon17:

Dude I've been looking them up and have been seeing a few running 13.6s bone stock. I bet the 2005-2010 4.6 guys are pretty ticked.

Those are 4th gear dyno pulls and not accurate due to the Getrag's gearing. A 5th gear dyno pull usually turns out 355-375whp.

If they were 4th gear pulls I would have disregarded them as I am fully aware that 5th is the 1:1.

Kenne Bell Twin Screw FTW!

i've not seen one, even on a mustang, dyno at 355, i've seen numerous at 380+, if it dyno'ed at 355, it had to be at an elevation of 3,000 ft. or above.

damn skippy, not only do they make nasty power, they look effin' sexy under the hood as well.