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zmyride 10-08-2010 10:58 PM

Automobile Magazine: 40th Anniv 370Z versus new Mustang GT
 
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November issue 2010.

I've uploaded the whole article here.

kevin1985912 10-09-2010 12:53 AM

please make it bigger

zman1910 10-09-2010 01:35 AM

I'm very curious to see some numbers bc the Z has never been consistent. Can someone post the specs?

scotman623 10-09-2010 08:10 AM

Guess I will be making a trip to the book store today..

ImportConvert 10-09-2010 08:39 AM

I hate to ask someone to violate a law, but please just post the whole thing.

Lemers 10-09-2010 08:56 AM

Don't like red interiors

Pharmacist 10-09-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 757939)
November issue 2010 is out in bookstores.

So in a nutshell their recommendation is this: If you're a racer, get the Z. If you're a poser, get the mustang. I agree :D

ImportConvert 10-09-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 758271)
So in a nutshell their recommendation is this: If you're a racer, get the Z. If you're a poser, get the mustang. I agree :D

I took it the opposite. Every test I have seen, the new mustang betters the 370Z on the track, both the twisty and the straight kind. The Z feels "racier" though, I enjoyed it when I test-drove it.

In the end, they are two different cars, though. When Nissan puts a 400+hp engine in their car, then they can come back and try again with the comparo, until then, the GT is a ringer for the M3, just with a lot less refinement.

Pharmacist 10-09-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 758284)
I took it the opposite. Every test I have seen, the new mustang betters the 370Z on the track, both the twisty and the straight kind. The Z feels "racier" though, I enjoyed it when I test-drove it.

In the end, they are two different cars, though. When Nissan puts a 400+hp engine in their car, then they can come back and try again with the comparo, until then, the GT is a ringer for the M3, just with a lot less refinement.

In the article they said if they are going all out on a track they will take the lighter more sophisticated Z. If they were a 30 something year old cruising the streets they will take the mustang

theDreamer 10-09-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 758284)
I took it the opposite. Every test I have seen, the new mustang betters the 370Z on the track, both the twisty and the straight kind. The Z feels "racier" though, I enjoyed it when I test-drove it.

In the end, they are two different cars, though. When Nissan puts a 400+hp engine in their car, then they can come back and try again with the comparo, until then, the GT is a ringer for the M3, just with a lot less refinement.

They say it in the article:
"If we were going all out on a racetrack, we'd likely pick the lighter, more sophisticated Z."

Now I am not saying that is the right choice or a 'better' choice, but the article does clearly lean towards the idea that the Z in their minds is a better choice for those at the track, as the car stands in the article.

ImportConvert 10-09-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 758288)
They say it in the article:
"If we were going all out on a racetrack, we'd likely pick the lighter, more sophisticated Z."

Now I am not saying that is the right choice or a 'better' choice, but the article does clearly lean towards the idea that the Z in their minds is a better choice for those at the track, as the car stands in the article.

Granted, I give you that. I would like to see the Z compared to the mustang on a shorter track, though. We know the GT wins in a straight line, but I am curious how it would do on a short track. Every test I have seen, the GT wins. I think they just like the "feel" of the cars in a different way in that article.

red6spd 10-09-2010 11:08 AM

what where the 0-60 and quarter times for both cars???????

CBRich 10-09-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 758284)
I took it the opposite. Every test I have seen, the new mustang betters the 370Z on the track, both the twisty and the straight kind. The Z feels "racier" though, I enjoyed it when I test-drove it.

In the end, they are two different cars, though. When Nissan puts a 400+hp engine in their car, then they can come back and try again with the comparo, until then, the GT is a ringer for the M3, just with a lot less refinement.

Yeesh. This guy again. :icon14:

I get it. They get it. The whole forum gets it. You want a Z with at least 400 hp.

Rui Z 10-09-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 758547)
Yeesh. This guy again. :icon14:

I get it. They get it. The whole forum gets it. You want a Z with at least 400 hp.

Haha I know. I guess he really wants to hammer the point into our heads that our 370Z is sloooooooowww.

nuTinmuch 10-09-2010 03:45 PM

This page will probably go ten pages.

Nothing of value will be said.

Lemers 10-09-2010 04:01 PM

Why stop at 400 hp. Because in about 10 yrs the mustang and camaro will have at least 500 hp and a 400 hp Z will be slow.

Endgame 10-09-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 758637)
Why stop at 400 hp. Because in about 10 yrs the mustang and camaro will have at least 500 hp and a 400 hp Z will be slow.

Well said. Look.... cars will continue to evolve and what we once deemed stupid fast will now become slow. Look at Nick Cage's Gone in 60 Seconds and they were drooling over the 911 that did 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. 5.3 seconds is considered slow now with the 'same' 911 doing 0 - 60 4.2 seconds.

Let's not forgot that our Z is still faster than most of the Mustangs on the road today, especially the 4.6 liter ones; but due to evolution, the Stang/Muscle Car is back on top in the overall speed catagory. It is how it should be. Heck, our Z's have the same/more HP than the R34 GTR. It goes back to the thought process of: Get the car you like for me than just magazine test and statistics. Get the car you want to have on the track/road/drag strip/car show.

For me, I would take my Z over the 5.0, Z06, and Exige all over again. Why? For different reasons depending on which one I am comparing it to.

I want to read this entire article however. Going to the store!!

ImportConvert 10-09-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 758348)
what where the 0-60 and quarter times for both cars???????

The Z does 0-60 in around 4.8 seconds, the GT in around 4.3. The Z does the 1/4 mile in around 13.3@107, and the GT 12.8@112.
These are about the best times I could find for each car.

WarmAndSCSI 10-09-2010 05:23 PM

I like cheese.

ImportConvert 10-09-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 758698)
I like cheese.

Pepperjack is my favorite. Just tore a slice up to go in the eggs I am cooking for breakfast.

m4a1mustang 10-09-2010 05:28 PM

These comparos are annoying. They aren't even the same type of car.

ImportConvert 10-09-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 758704)
These comparos are annoying. They aren't even the same type of car.

I agree, but they cost the same, and people are bound to compare them because of it.

m4a1mustang 10-09-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 758707)
I agree, but they cost the same, and people are bound to compare them because of it.

This is true. But mainly I hate them because of all the douchebaggery they promote.

The only purpose these comparos serve anymore is to highlight the fact that the true "car guy" is (sadly) a dying breed. Happens on any forum with any car... far too many become brand fanbois these days.

Anyways, both are awesome cars and you can't go wrong with whichever you choose if you happen to be cross-shopping them. I know because I've owned both, and I'm not a brand-fanboi douchebag.

m4a1mustang 10-09-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 758698)
I like cheese.

I also enjoy this coagulated food product you speak of.

The BlueMax 10-09-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 758242)
Don't like red interiors

I hate tan and light brown interiors:shakes head:

msb3079 10-09-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin1985912 (Post 758108)
please make it bigger

That's what she said.

Waiz 10-09-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 758704)
These comparos are annoying. They aren't even the same type of car.

Agreed, other than price it's not a good comparison.

cossie1600 10-09-2010 10:37 PM

Chances are that the Mustang will probably go faster at the race track due to a huge gap in horsepower.

fairladyZ34 10-09-2010 11:30 PM

whats the point of this thread?

Red370 10-10-2010 12:37 AM

Since we're on the topic of comparo's, im going to do my own, being that i've owned both.

In the looks department, the Z wins easily, just the other day I was talking to a female friend of mine and told her that I bought a new Mustang and she made it a point to mention that she thought my Z was a "sexy" car, and while the Mustang has its own appeal, its a bit bland for her taste, and I'll concur, its pretty plain jane, it looks big and beefy like a muscle car should, and I like that.

The interior of the Z wins easily as well, I liked the fact that my Z fit me like a glove, the seats bolstered well, the push button start, the color scheme, the overall layout, I loved it. Only thing I hated was the stupid LED fuel gauge. While I dont hate the Mustang interior, its really plain, nothin fancy about it, I didnt buy the car for the interior :)

Handling, once again, the Z wins in my opinion, while the mag racers say that the Mustang hangs right along with it, I dont think it does, the stang feels heavy through the turns, it doesnt inspire confidence for me, it just doesnt feel nimble like my Z did. It'll probably handle alot better than I give it credit for, but i'm too nervous to find out. Can you add sway bars, coilovers and make it handle like an F1 car? sure you can, but the car will still be 300lbs heavier and have a higher center of gravity.

Power, the Z COMPLETELY loses in this department hands down, no if's, and's, or's, or buts. I had just about every bolt on mod the Z could get and a tune and it still had no torque to speak of, and it was the torque that I craved. When I get on it in my 5.0, it throws me back into my seat, the tires smoke effortlessly, i've even chirped it in 4th gear. The transmission is also much much more smooth than the Z, there is no notchyness to speak of, although there is that familiar "clank" when bangin through the gears at low rpms.

Technologically, the Mustang wins as well. While the SRM was a nice touch, I thought of it more as a gimmick than something that would add any kind of performance to the car. People have been throttle blipping since the beginning of the automobile. The Mustang has multiple modes of traction control that can be changed at the touch of a button, it even has a sport mode that stiffens the turning of the steering wheel and allows you to get on it without having to worry about your engine cutting power.

Overall, i'm happy with my purchase, I love it and i'm excited about driving it every day just like I was with my Z. You cant go wrong with either car fellas, these comparo articles really need to go, fun reads, but contribute nothing to alter decisions IMHO.

96bigbody 10-10-2010 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 758637)
Why stop at 400 hp. Because in about 10 yrs the mustang and camaro will have at least 500 hp and a 400 hp Z will be slow.

Not 10 yrs..Next year the camaro z28 will have 550 to 600hp

ImportConvert 10-10-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 759174)
Not 10 yrs..Next year the camaro z28 will have 550 to 600hp

yes, but with 436bhp, the current SS is no faster than the previous iteration with 350bhp. That weight soaks it up.

theDreamer 10-10-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 759174)
Not 10 yrs..Next year the camaro z28 will have 550 to 600hp

With a supercharger though.
Slap on a TT in the Z and you can be at 450-500 depending on what PSI you want to run.

PapoZalsa 10-10-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 758704)
These comparos are annoying. They aren't even the same type of car.

:iagree:

Yeap, oranges and apples!

Don't know why they this comparison, muscle car vs sport car. :rolleyes:

Red370 10-10-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 759174)
Not 10 yrs..Next year the camaro z28 will have 550 to 600hp

and it will cost the same or more as the GT500, thus killing the "value" of owning it. Ford is dropping the 5.4 engine in the GT500 and will be using the 5.0 engine for the next iteration, it makes more power at a lower PSI, so expect the GT500 to be making 600+ as well. The Whipple 2.3L kit is already making 624hp and 560 ft/lbs at 9 psi.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 10:26 AM

Rumor was the GT500 would get the Raptor's 6.2L.

Red370 10-10-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759249)
Rumor was the GT500 would get the Raptor's 6.2L.

yeah? i could have sworn I read somewhere that it was getting the 5.0... oh well, a supercharged 6.2? ridiculous.

ProfessorDave 10-10-2010 03:29 PM

Saw 2 GT500's today. TWO! Must be a Mustang car show in the area. Unheard of. Sweet, sweet growl to that engine.

WarmAndSCSI 10-10-2010 03:30 PM

mmmmm GT500

370Zsteve 10-10-2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 758637)
Why stop at 400 hp. Because in about 10 yrs the mustang and camaro will have at least 500 hp and a 400 hp Z will be slow.

In 10 years gasoline in the USA will be $16/gallon and we'll be driving Nissan Leafs. "Till then, enjoy your Z :tup:


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