Well he is 1 of 9, so he is part of the collective.

Well, of course I'm not going to try and use that justification.

I want/need a second car for:

1. The daily grind
2. Winter
3. Practicality
4. So I don't waste gas... you know, to fulfill that small bit of environmentalist I have inside of me. :rolleyes:

Whether I spend $1000, $10000, $20000, or $50000 on this car doesn't matter.

Nissan should sell a LEAF/370Z discount package. :D

:icon18:

Buy a 370Z, get a LEAF for free. :icon17::icon17:

I agree with you, the weight is a bit of a disappointment. Although, it's not useless flab. The new car does carry more safely related hardware and the fore-mentioned beefed-up chassis. Considering present day fuel mileage requirements, I'm surprised they gave the new, heavier car as much power as they did.

I think if the next gen car is built on the rumored smaller chassis and includes various weight saving materials, the result will be very good. Then the car would roll with 425-450hp.

I do like the '11 Mustang GT (great photo Red370!). If I were in the market for a new pony car, I'd choose the GT over the Camaro. Its size, interior design and handling are more to my liking...plus, the 5.0 sounds awesome!

you couldnt be more right buddy. Mine is sex.

Sounds mean!

If you can blow that much on your DD, I admire your income/station in life, 'grats! :tiphat:

For me, I just traded my WS6 for a little 4-banger and was done with it, lol

What specs are you looking at. The LS1 was a mid-low 13 sec car while the LS3 is a high 12 to low 13 sec car. Sure it's not leaps and bounds faster but it is faster. Kind of like how the 370z is faster than the 350z, not a huge amount faster, but faster. Not to mention the LS3 has launch control which helps with getting a good launch. Had a 2001 Trans AM LS1 and C6 LS2 and now have a 2010 SS LS3. The Camaro is faster than the Trans AM but not the C6 LS2. Butt dyno and track proven with all three during ownership. Not to mention the Camaro destroyed the Trans AM in auto-x when we took them both. This gen Camaro, aside from weight, is a better car than the previous gen.



Mustang 5.0 owns all, except for the LS3 Vette.

I can't speak for handling, we don't have twisties around here.

FWIW, my friend ran 13.3@105 in his bone-stock 113K mile 1998 automatic Z28 with flowmasters (10whp penalty).
Another friend ran 12.9@107 in his bone-stock 98 6-speed WS6.
Most people ran 13.1-13.3 at my track with stock F-bodies. A lid/catback had them into the 12's repeatedly.

I babied the heck out of my 100K mile (at that time) WS6 M6 and ran 14.0X@101.9 with a 2.4 60' time (assuming a 2.0 60' would put me at 13.2XX and I am sure the MPH would go up as well) launching off idle and then bogging badly and shifting into 4th 75' before the beams. On the street, as you can see, the car did much better as I wasn't scared of blowing the rear end up on a roll'on. (I had just blown the rear backin out of the drive-way before I went to the strip, hence the weak launches. I was in college and couldn't afford to break it and was still dumb enough to race it.)

My next car will be the mustang. Lots of aftermarket parts . Superchargers with big horse power. No ecu problems for tuning.
it cost big $ to make the 370 z go fast,
I love my Z but the mustang look great.
Last time at the track i saw an 2010 or 11 SC mustang go 10.8 @ 140.
Did it sound mean. It had a few bolts on and a nice set of rear rims and drag radials.

Im waiting for more info on the new stingray vette in 2014, so in the meantime I will have to get the GTM SC.

:icon18:Retiree... middle aged... the vette is perfect for you Steve:icon17:

I learned a new fun fact about the 5.0L Mustang:
CO2 emissions 0.96 lb/mile

Where the Z has:
CO2 emissions 0.93 lb/mile

Take that. :p

5.0 :owned: :icon17:

Lots of us younger guys liking the 'vettes. I think the demographic is changing.

So what you are saying is you get about 25% more power for about 3% more emissions with the American V8? Nissan Enviro-fail.

I hear that Z's are now coming with a free Leaf to compensate.

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/...san_leaf_1.jpg

Enviro WIN!

Some battles aren't worth winning if the results look like the above. Like dropping a nuke on a terrorist cell in NYC.

you bitch! LOL. But yea it will probably be my next car if its not too expensive. The Z is a nice car and quick but I want that raw power the vettes have. But Im sure I will make some vette owners mad as I will use the power of them unlike alot I saw in the vette forum.

I'm wondering if they're going to keep the classic styling with the flared front fender wells, I always loved that look.

[IMG][/IMG]I dont know I just want that stingray look and the double window in the back and 450 HP and TQ.

http://i32.tinypic.com/x9kdl.jpg

^I want 4 exhaust pipes!

found this video today, thought it was cool.

just wanted to share, found this fail disaster today:

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...t6/p_01039.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...t6/p_01040.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...t6/p_01038.jpg

Whoa.... got my tuner today! Lovin' it! :icon17:

Red I wouldn't be surprised if that 281 was bored out to 302ci... they do it all the time.

What is this the Mustang Social Club? :gtfo2:

Go find something better to do Steve. Seriously, if you don't want to see this stuff then stay the **** out of the thread. :shakes head:

might be, but its effin stupid to put a 5.0 badge on it. Just plain looks ridiculous.

If its a 302 its fine with me, lol.

you dont find it a bit poseurish? I want this guy at the track. Then i'd scoff at him and snootily tell him to remove his glue on badge.