Camaro board "Z only real competitor"

m4a1mustang · 01-13-2011, 07:59 AM

The Mustang is only a couple hundred pounds heavier than a Sport+Touring 370Z Coupe. The Camaro and Challenger are several hundred pounds heavier than the Mustang.

flashburn · 01-13-2011, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Mustang is only a couple hundred pounds heavier than a Sport+Touring 370Z Coupe. The Camaro and Challenger are several hundred pounds heavier than the Mustang.

Z: ~3250 lbs
Mustang GT: ~3600 lbs
Camaro SS: ~3900 lbs
Challenger: ~3850 lbs

A bit more than a couple (unless you are a pretty freaky, and we all know you are m4a1,

).

Not trying to slam the Mustang, as I do like it (as I've already stated in other threads), just pointing out the weight differences I found when I googled for them.

Weight be damned, I still want the Boss 302.

m4a1mustang · 01-13-2011, 08:27 AM

That's for the base. The Sport + Touring brings it up over 3,300 lbs. So I was a little off.

And a SRT-8 Challenger is over 4,000 lbs.

m4a1mustang · 01-13-2011, 08:27 AM

And yes, I am very freaky.

What are you doing tonight?

Oh, you don't have to answer. I'll just take a look at my surveilance cameras.

daisuke149 · 01-13-2011, 11:12 AM

yeah i got to drive the camaro SS a bit, friend has one. and its got a nice torquey rush to it.. but honestly thats it. The interior was soo bad.. just bad. Sure its got back seats but they aint easy to get to or super comfy. The trunk is okay. When i was shopping though for a car, I didnt even look at them. Instead I was considering a G8 gxp. same kinda power, but real back seats and a real trunk and a much nicer interior. Probably weighs less too and based of the same platform.

ChrisSlicks · 01-13-2011, 12:29 PM

G8 GXP is a nice car. Designed in Australia as a derivative of the Holden Commodore for the US market. Unfortunately as Pontiac is no more they killed the car, although there is rumors it may return at some point under the GM/Chevy name.

flashburn · 01-13-2011, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That's for the base. The Sport + Touring brings it up over 3,300 lbs. So I was a little off.

And a SRT-8 Challenger is over 4,000 lbs.

Yeah, I didn't have exact numbers (didn't feel like searching that much), but I figured they would be close enough. It's a shame the Challenger is such a pig, because looks wise, I like it the best out of the three revival "Muscle" cars. Less weight and a lower roof line (and of course better handling) would make it more of a real competitor.

christian370z · 01-13-2011, 01:50 PM

The most objectionable thing I feel on the Challenger is just how massive and plain the sides are, they are basically one clean wall of metal and make the car look larger than it is. If the whole car shrunk slightly, it would be perfect especially with the 6 speed manual.

m4a1mustang · 01-13-2011, 02:00 PM

Yeah, the Challenger just looks fat. Its waaay too tall.

Lug · 01-13-2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn

Z: ~3250 lbs
Mustang GT: ~3600 lbs
Camaro SS: ~3900 lbs
Challenger: ~3850 lbs

A bit more than a couple (unless you are a pretty freaky, and we all know you are m4a1,

).

Not trying to slam the Mustang, as I do like it (as I've already stated in other threads), just pointing out the weight differences I found when I googled for them.

Weight be damned, I still want the Boss 302.

Using your numbers.....

Z: ~3250 lbs = 9.7 lbs/hp
Mustang GT: ~3600 lbs = 8.7 lbs/hp
Camaro SS: ~3900 lbs = 9.2 lbs/hp
Challenger: ~3850 lbs = 9.0 lbs/hp

THis is why the 'stang now rocks, plus it out-handles the other two americans easily and is creepiing up into Z territory.

daisuke149 · 01-13-2011, 02:13 PM

the thing though about power.. weight all that is that its all relative. Yes lower weight could be nicer and higher hp could be nicer.. but its all relative to the design and engineering of the car as a whole. So much goes into how the power is put to the ground, the gear ratio's, aero dynamics, etc etc etc etc etc. that well in the end, people just have to go out and run the cars.

Not saying that a car with 336hp and weights 10,000lb's can beat a 370z but when people knacker over 100lb's or 15 hp in completely different cars.. ehh its a useless arguement.

Thats why i spent about 3 months test driving different cars each weekend.

P.S The g8 is an awesome car. A manual 6.0 GTO is also a ton of fun.

wishihadnav · 01-13-2011, 02:39 PM

id take a camaro over a stang in a heartbeat.

lmacasiljig · 01-13-2011, 02:48 PM

As for me, I would take Mustang over Camaro especially the Shelby model. Camaro looks flashy outside and muscular looking... But oh boy, inside, let's not talk about it. = Metal outside = Plastic inside...

Needless to say, I would stay with my 370. My friend who owns Porsche always dream about owning a Z whenever he sees my car. What's up with that?

kevin1985912 · 01-13-2011, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmacasiljig

As for me, I would take Mustang over Camaro especially the Shelby model. Camaro looks flashy outside and muscular looking... But oh boy, inside, let's not talk about it. = Metal outside = Plastic inside...

Nonetheless, I would stay with my 370. My friend who owns Porsche always dream about owning a Z whenever he sees my car. What's up with that?

I think your friend is just being nice....

wishihadnav · 01-13-2011, 02:59 PM

id take a porche over a 370z in a heartbeat..lol.

01-13-2011, 07:59 AM	#61 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The Mustang is only a couple hundred pounds heavier than a Sport+Touring 370Z Coupe. The Camaro and Challenger are several hundred pounds heavier than the Mustang. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-13-2011, 08:27 AM	#63 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	That's for the base. The Sport + Touring brings it up over 3,300 lbs. So I was a little off. And a SRT-8 Challenger is over 4,000 lbs. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-13-2011, 08:27 AM	#64 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	And yes, I am very freaky. What are you doing tonight? Oh, you don't have to answer. I'll just take a look at my surveilance cameras. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-13-2011, 12:29 PM	#66 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	G8 GXP is a nice car. Designed in Australia as a derivative of the Holden Commodore for the US market. Unfortunately as Pontiac is no more they killed the car, although there is rumors it may return at some point under the GM/Chevy name. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

01-13-2011, 01:50 PM	#68 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 431	The most objectionable thing I feel on the Challenger is just how massive and plain the sides are, they are basically one clean wall of metal and make the car look larger than it is. If the whole car shrunk slightly, it would be perfect especially with the 6 speed manual. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

01-13-2011, 11:12 AM	#65 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	yeah i got to drive the camaro SS a bit, friend has one. and its got a nice torquey rush to it.. but honestly thats it. The interior was soo bad.. just bad. Sure its got back seats but they aint easy to get to or super comfy. The trunk is okay. When i was shopping though for a car, I didnt even look at them. Instead I was considering a G8 gxp. same kinda power, but real back seats and a real trunk and a much nicer interior. Probably weighs less too and based of the same platform.

01-13-2011, 02:00 PM	#69 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yeah, the Challenger just looks fat. Its waaay too tall. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-13-2011, 02:13 PM	#71 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	the thing though about power.. weight all that is that its all relative. Yes lower weight could be nicer and higher hp could be nicer.. but its all relative to the design and engineering of the car as a whole. So much goes into how the power is put to the ground, the gear ratio's, aero dynamics, etc etc etc etc etc. that well in the end, people just have to go out and run the cars. Not saying that a car with 336hp and weights 10,000lb's can beat a 370z but when people knacker over 100lb's or 15 hp in completely different cars.. ehh its a useless arguement. Thats why i spent about 3 months test driving different cars each weekend. P.S The g8 is an awesome car. A manual 6.0 GTO is also a ton of fun.

01-13-2011, 02:39 PM	#72 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	id take a camaro over a stang in a heartbeat.

01-13-2011, 02:48 PM	#73 (permalink)
lmacasiljig Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 39 Drives: 370Z MB 2009 Base Rep Power: 14	As for me, I would take Mustang over Camaro especially the Shelby model. Camaro looks flashy outside and muscular looking... But oh boy, inside, let's not talk about it. = Metal outside = Plastic inside... Needless to say, I would stay with my 370. My friend who owns Porsche always dream about owning a Z whenever he sees my car. What's up with that? __________________ 370z Monterey Blue/Gold Rims Last edited by lmacasiljig; 01-13-2011 at 02:51 PM.

01-13-2011, 02:59 PM	#75 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	id take a porche over a 370z in a heartbeat..lol.

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