Explain these numbers: Carrera S vs 370Z

klubbheads · 09-14-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I think what you are failing to see is, if the Z numbers are wrong then the porsche numbers are probably wrong too. So do the same for the other cars too and its still the same result.

Read my post again..... Do a little analyzing and see if you make sense....
Thanks.
If you fail, I will type the same post in more comprehendible way just for you...

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

When you have a high 12 timeslip, you might be right. Until then, documented runs say the 370Z auto is faster than the Cayman S

huhhh....

?

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klubbheads

Read my post again..... Do a little analyzing and see if you make sense....
Thanks.
If you fail, I will type the same post in more comprehendible way just for you...

huhhh....

?

Dont know what you are anal izing but you said the Z numbers were wrong and I said then the porsche numbers were to and if you correct the z numbers then correct the others numbers too and you get the same result, the Z getting beat. I tell you what just go race one and then post it on you tube for us to see.

klubbheads · 09-14-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Dont know what you are anal izing but you said the Z numbers were wrong and I said then the porsche numbers were to and if you correct the z numbers then correct the others numbers too and you get the same result, the Z getting beat. I tell you what just go race one and then post it on you tube for us to see.

Here is some basic drag racing education....

13.8 @ 103mph that i got with my Z was done by having a 2.5x 60ft time. Generally every 0.1 of a 60ft time will yield 0.2 off of your ET...
A decent launch with a RWD street car is 2.1 60ft time that means I sucked launching the Z yet still got 13.8.

So by following this fact proves that the magazine number that the OP posted for the Z is either bogus or sucked at launching the car. But the problem is that magazines can do infinite launches to get the best time unlike myself. I was limited to 2 runs.

Cmike2780 · 09-13-2010, 10:03 PM

The Porsche design may be a little lazy, but you can't deny the heritage behind the badge. As much as I like all things Nissan, you can't help but respect what the Porsche brand has done for sports cars in general. Competition leads to better, faster cars. Having the Z come within reach of its Porsche counterparts is a milestone considering its nearly half the cost to purchase & maintain.

m4a1mustang · 09-13-2010, 11:21 PM

Buy whatever makes you happy and whatever you think is the best value for your situation.

Zsteve · 09-13-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Buy whatever makes you happy and whatever you think is the best value for your situation.

except for mustangs, they are in the same group as Prius. JK stang.

m4a1mustang · 09-13-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

except for mustangs, they are in the same group as Prius. JK stang.

I agree. The gas mileage is very close.

Zsteve · 09-13-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I agree. The gas mileage is very close.

I would have thought with the Prius being faster than the new stangs they would be worse in the MPG area. LOL.

m4a1mustang · 09-13-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I would have thought with the Prius being faster than the new stangs they would be worse in the MPG area. LOL.

chuckd05 · 09-14-2010, 12:06 AM

I ran a 12.9. After mods our car is right there. What this means is put Joe blow Carrera S or caymen S driver on the line next to me at the track and I could beat them. Our car is right there..

Mine is a manual as well.

12.6 was done with my mods plus gears and long tubes . The Z does not disapoint. I'm guessing we will see better times as weather cools . We need more 12 sec Z's!

Zsteve · 09-14-2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

I ran a 12.9. After mods our car is right there. What this means is put Joe blow Carrera S or caymen S driver on the line next to me at the track and I could beat them. Our car is right there..

Mine is a manual as well.

12.6 was done with my mods plus gears and long tubes . The Z does not disapoint. I'm guessing we will see better times as weather cools . We need more 12 sec Z's!

After the same mods the porsche isback on top. were are going stock for stock in this thread.

optiontrader · 09-14-2010, 12:44 AM

I test drove an '06 Cayman S (along with a G37S coupe, 335i coupe, and a Prius [JK!]) before I settled on a Z. The Porsche is an AMAZING car - it's almost difficult to put into words. From the sitting position, feel of the shifter, to the way it "snakes" around curves, up to that phenomenal sound of that engine just behind your head.

Unfortunately, it was used, had 30k miles, and was still stickering at $45k. It also had a lovely "air freshener" smell which likened it to a rental inside.

BUT IT'S SPECTACULAR.

We buy our Z's since that would be the best financial sense for us. I can't afford a new Cayman S; and most Porsche customers who usually dole out cash or hefty down payments for their cars, don't even consider a Z.

Yes there are comparisons, but we've got two completely different classes of cars here. The Z is plenty fun; and if I had the money (we're putting a downpayment on a house), I would've gotten a newer Cayman S instead of the Z.

But hey, getting a house AND a Z-car. Win-Win, in my book. :TU:

iwasgointo · 09-14-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

So according to Road and Track, theses are the performance stats for the Carrera S, Cayman S, and 370Z. I have trouble figuring out why the Z is so much slower than the other two, particularly the Carrera S. Aside from the benefit of a rear weight bias for the Carrera giving a quicker 0-60 (better rear traction), the 1/4mi times baffle me. Is the 70lbs and 20hp/25tq that significant? All theories welcome...!

Carrera S
355hp
295tq
wt 3295lbs
0-60 4.1s
0-100 10.3s
60-0 111ft
1/4 12.6@111.9

Cayman S
320hp
273tq
wt 3100lbs
0-60 4.6s
0-100 10.6s
60-0 117ft
1/4 12.9@108.8

370Z
332hp
270tq
wt 3360lbs
0-60 5.2s
0-100 12.8s
60-0 115ft
1/4 13.7@103.9

Porsche is better at getting more power to the wheels. Also, the power figures for the Carrera are pre-PDK, so that can't be the reason.

spearfish25 · 09-14-2010, 09:12 PM

What about using a third party shop to do your work. I used to take my out-of-warranty Audi to a third party "exotic" mechanic and they only charged $80/hr. Routine maintenance wasn't terrible at all.

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Originally Posted by AMCPacer

I'm very intrigued by the Cayman S. What and how much are some typical maintenance issues? I would consider a lightly used one. Rather than going to a dealer for maintenance, are there good qualified mechanics/garages who can do the maintenance for signficantly less than the dealer?

You snuck that in while I was typing!

AMCPacer · 09-14-2010, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

What about using a third party shop to do your work. I used to take my out-of-warranty Audi to a third party "exotic" mechanic and they only charged $80/hr. Routine maintenance wasn't terrible at all.

You snuck that in while I was typing!

Sorry dude, great minds think alike!

09-13-2010, 10:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 30	The Porsche design may be a little lazy, but you can't deny the heritage behind the badge. As much as I like all things Nissan, you can't help but respect what the Porsche brand has done for sports cars in general. Competition leads to better, faster cars. Having the Z come within reach of its Porsche counterparts is a milestone considering its nearly half the cost to purchase & maintain. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

09-13-2010, 11:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Buy whatever makes you happy and whatever you think is the best value for your situation. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

09-14-2010, 12:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 21	I ran a 12.9. After mods our car is right there. What this means is put Joe blow Carrera S or caymen S driver on the line next to me at the track and I could beat them. Our car is right there.. Mine is a manual as well. 12.6 was done with my mods plus gears and long tubes . The Z does not disapoint. I'm guessing we will see better times as weather cools . We need more 12 sec Z's! __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 09-14-2010 at 12:10 AM.

09-14-2010, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 17	I test drove an '06 Cayman S (along with a G37S coupe, 335i coupe, and a Prius [JK!]) before I settled on a Z. The Porsche is an AMAZING car - it's almost difficult to put into words. From the sitting position, feel of the shifter, to the way it "snakes" around curves, up to that phenomenal sound of that engine just behind your head. Unfortunately, it was used, had 30k miles, and was still stickering at $45k. It also had a lovely "air freshener" smell which likened it to a rental inside. BUT IT'S SPECTACULAR. We buy our Z's since that would be the best financial sense for us. I can't afford a new Cayman S; and most Porsche customers who usually dole out cash or hefty down payments for their cars, don't even consider a Z. Yes there are comparisons, but we've got two completely different classes of cars here. The Z is plenty fun; and if I had the money (we're putting a downpayment on a house), I would've gotten a newer Cayman S instead of the Z. But hey, getting a house AND a Z-car. Win-Win, in my book. :TU: __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

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