Explain these numbers: Carrera S vs 370Z

Zsteve · 09-12-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

I changed my mind. If I had the $$, I'd get an Audi R8 (and I'd keep my Z). If I had even more $$$, I'd get a Lexus LFA (and would give my Z to one of the kids).

A guy can dream, can't he?!?

yes we can and if we win the lottery then we spend spend spend.

nuts4nissan09 · 09-12-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

You know, the Cayman also has a few mods out

This knucklehead almost bought it when he got on it w/ those low temps. All that power is just unneccessary on the street. If you're that concerned about being showed-up by someone in a faster car, you have problems (inferiority complex). Buy what in the Hell you want and don't worry about some other dudes faster car. There will always be a faster car unless you're rolling in a top-fuel funny car and they don't handle worth a damn. I bought a 370Z and a Frontier 4wd crew cab for less than the price of a Cayman S and do not regret it at all. I prefer the Z's low cost (maintenance/purchase price/repair) over the Porsche. The Cayman S is a wonderful car, just not for me.

Cmike2780 · 09-12-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

There is no hope for you, you might as well go buy a hooker.

Dammit! That ruins my plans for next Saturday.

tbonesteak · 09-12-2010, 01:25 PM

I guess a lot of people are missing the point because they haven't REALLY driven the p-cars. You know, it's not always about the 1320 times, skid pad numbers, and other data that 90% of us can't even replicate. It's about the experience. I come from an s2000 which undoubtedly has one of the best driving experience of any production car period. It may lack a LOT of power, have comfort features from the 80s, and generate so much road noise you can't carry on a conversation on the fwy, but no doubt it is one fun car to drive aside from a lotus. That is what building sports is all about. The p-cars have that key ingredient that justifies that extra dough. When I drove the 997.5 carrera s with pdk, it literally felt like a dream. I was scratching my head the whole day curious as to how one car can do everything so well. It feels quiet and comfy when you want it to, but when you don't, it feels just as connected and exhilarating if not more than the s2000. The Z does one thing well. The s2000 does the other thing well. But the p-car does everything well. It's really hard to explain how the car feels, but in the end, people buying these cars aren't buying it for the performance numbers. They're buying it for that key ingredient that most manufacturers still haven't figured out.

NYBladeZ · 09-12-2010, 01:33 PM

Alas, its the end of the season so I won't have a chance to find and run a Carrera or Cayman S. I'd love to see how I'd match up. Before getting the Z I gave hard thought to a Boxster S. However, I'd be willing to bet that my Z in its current state with a full exhaust and tune with all the carbon fiber, braille battery, etc. will probably provide more of a challenge. Lastly, it cost me a lot less to get my car to its current state than it would have cost to get the Porsche. One oil change would kill my wallet for the Porsche and I would have to save up for a whole year for an aftermarket part.

dad · 09-12-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

So the Nissan spec sheet lists the Z at 332hp. The stock dynos on this forum are all in the 270-280whp range. But 270 from 332 is a huge difference.

That's horrible!

Zsteve · 09-12-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Dammit! That ruins my plans for next Saturday.

Hookers work on Sat. LOL. Crusin is always fun.

NYBladeZ · 09-12-2010, 04:43 PM

270whp on what kind of dyno? Dynojets will be more giving than a Mustang Dyno.

spearfish25 · 09-12-2010, 05:10 PM

Just getting back from an autoX today. I'll give the Z one thing for sure. It really is a great balance of a trackday car and an autoX car. You can watch vettes stomp the field on a track day and then be neutered by their high power on an autoX. Conversely, Miatas dominate autoX events and then get their butts whipped on a trackday. The Z can hold its own in both arenas...maybe not top honors, but no embarrassments either.

iwasgointo · 09-12-2010, 06:25 PM

With the cost of a Porsche it better perform better. Just buy the best car you can afford and enjoy it, so what if the Porsche is faster. If you owned the Porsche would you be happy if the 370z performed just as well and your money was wasted? Besides, look at all the money you're saving on maintenance and repairs by not owning the Porsche.

If what the Porsche does very well is what you want, then set your sights on owning a Porsche and work towards that goal.

There are also many recent vintage, low mileage, well cared for , Factory Certified used Carrera's available. The price would still be higher than a new Z, but you would be saving a substantial amount of green over a new Porsche. I think that would bring anybody a lot of satisfaction. You'll just have to accept the fact that you're not going to get filet mignon for the price of sirloin.

I own an 09' Infiniti G37S Coupe with man trans, which I love, but my goal is to own a used, but recent Carrera S in the not too distant future.

I test drove an 07' Carrera, not the S, and there is a difference even though my G has some mods.

iwasgointo · 09-12-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed

Because the cayman looks generic and I happen to enjoy being able to actually work on my car.

The Cayman looks generic? What else looks like it other than another Porsche?

Zsteve · 09-12-2010, 10:32 PM

JD Powers gives the 370Z 6 out of 10 and the Porsche 8 out of 10 so I dont know where you are getting that it needs more repairs than the Z.

And the Porsche is meant for older business men who want speed quality style class and dont want to look or sound like the younger need for speed guys. Trust me Evanna Trumo isnt going to get in your Z when there is a Porsche around too.

rebe945 · 09-12-2010, 10:48 PM

I have a report that the Z did a 4.6 60 using the automatic tranny. It all depends on many conditions.

Zsteve · 09-12-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rebe945

I have a report that the Z did a 4.6 60 using the automatic tranny. It all depends on many conditions.

true that

nuTinmuch · 09-13-2010, 11:58 AM

I love how women are objectified as prizes to be won when you drive up in a car. Car forums are literally the best.

09-12-2010, 01:33 PM	#50 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	Alas, its the end of the season so I won't have a chance to find and run a Carrera or Cayman S. I'd love to see how I'd match up. Before getting the Z I gave hard thought to a Boxster S. However, I'd be willing to bet that my Z in its current state with a full exhaust and tune with all the carbon fiber, braille battery, etc. will probably provide more of a challenge. Lastly, it cost me a lot less to get my car to its current state than it would have cost to get the Porsche. One oil change would kill my wallet for the Porsche and I would have to save up for a whole year for an aftermarket part. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

09-12-2010, 04:43 PM	#53 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	270whp on what kind of dyno? Dynojets will be more giving than a Mustang Dyno. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

09-12-2010, 05:10 PM	#54 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Just getting back from an autoX today. I'll give the Z one thing for sure. It really is a great balance of a trackday car and an autoX car. You can watch vettes stomp the field on a track day and then be neutered by their high power on an autoX. Conversely, Miatas dominate autoX events and then get their butts whipped on a trackday. The Z can hold its own in both arenas...maybe not top honors, but no embarrassments either. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

09-12-2010, 06:25 PM	#55 (permalink)
iwasgointo Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: philadeelphia Posts: 16 Drives: 09 Infiniti G37S Rep Power: 15	With the cost of a Porsche it better perform better. Just buy the best car you can afford and enjoy it, so what if the Porsche is faster. If you owned the Porsche would you be happy if the 370z performed just as well and your money was wasted? Besides, look at all the money you're saving on maintenance and repairs by not owning the Porsche. If what the Porsche does very well is what you want, then set your sights on owning a Porsche and work towards that goal. There are also many recent vintage, low mileage, well cared for , Factory Certified used Carrera's available. The price would still be higher than a new Z, but you would be saving a substantial amount of green over a new Porsche. I think that would bring anybody a lot of satisfaction. You'll just have to accept the fact that you're not going to get filet mignon for the price of sirloin. I own an 09' Infiniti G37S Coupe with man trans, which I love, but my goal is to own a used, but recent Carrera S in the not too distant future. I test drove an 07' Carrera, not the S, and there is a difference even though my G has some mods. Last edited by iwasgointo; 09-12-2010 at 06:34 PM.

09-12-2010, 10:32 PM	#57 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	JD Powers gives the 370Z 6 out of 10 and the Porsche 8 out of 10 so I dont know where you are getting that it needs more repairs than the Z. And the Porsche is meant for older business men who want speed quality style class and dont want to look or sound like the younger need for speed guys. Trust me Evanna Trumo isnt going to get in your Z when there is a Porsche around too. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

09-12-2010, 01:25 PM	#49 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 376	I guess a lot of people are missing the point because they haven't REALLY driven the p-cars. You know, it's not always about the 1320 times, skid pad numbers, and other data that 90% of us can't even replicate. It's about the experience. I come from an s2000 which undoubtedly has one of the best driving experience of any production car period. It may lack a LOT of power, have comfort features from the 80s, and generate so much road noise you can't carry on a conversation on the fwy, but no doubt it is one fun car to drive aside from a lotus. That is what building sports is all about. The p-cars have that key ingredient that justifies that extra dough. When I drove the 997.5 carrera s with pdk, it literally felt like a dream. I was scratching my head the whole day curious as to how one car can do everything so well. It feels quiet and comfy when you want it to, but when you don't, it feels just as connected and exhilarating if not more than the s2000. The Z does one thing well. The s2000 does the other thing well. But the p-car does everything well. It's really hard to explain how the car feels, but in the end, people buying these cars aren't buying it for the performance numbers. They're buying it for that key ingredient that most manufacturers still haven't figured out.

09-12-2010, 10:48 PM	#58 (permalink)
rebe945 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: middleburg hts, ohio Posts: 491 Drives: 2009 370Z black 7at Rep Power: 16	Z doing a 4.6 I have a report that the Z did a 4.6 60 using the automatic tranny. It all depends on many conditions.

09-13-2010, 11:58 AM	#60 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 18	I love how women are objectified as prizes to be won when you drive up in a car. Car forums are literally the best. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

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