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I've had an accident or two and no insurance company ever asked if my driver aids were turned on/off. No way they will have any idea unless you go broadcasting

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Old 08-14-2010, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've had an accident or two and no insurance company ever asked if my driver aids were turned on/off. No way they will have any idea unless you go broadcasting the information.
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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accidents are one thing but kill someone or going crashing into a house or the likes and they will investigate. Small chance I know but not worth the risk of having it hard wired off so it can be discovered later.
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I'm all for safety first myself i never turn off the vdc. But i'll guess i will show my age and ask whats all the fuss about anyway. How about common sense and some driver responsibility. know your limitations and your surroundings.

back in high school i had a 69 GTO with about 400 hp no such thing as vdc,
abs brakes etc. with skinny 15in tires all the muscle cars in the 60's where the same.with those cars it was about driver skill and knowing your limitations and your cars. today guys will turn off the vdc and then don't have a clue what happens next and blame it on the car or the other driver.
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accidents are one thing but kill someone or going crashing into a house or the likes and they will investigate. Small chance I know but not worth the risk of having it hard wired off so it can be discovered later.
uhhh...wow.

If you crashed into a house, VDC was not going to save you, you've gone well beyond the limits of VDC, the car, and your driving abilities. It is not a magic button that let's you drive around like a bat out of hell without worry (and the fact that people seem to think it is worries me). It prevents oversteer and slippage...not complete stupidity.

FYI, you are not going to get into trouble for turning off VDC. You're going to get into trouble for driving in a manner that would crash your car into a house. You'd get into the exact same amount of trouble whether VDC was on or off, and you can accomplish the same stupdity of hitting a house either way.
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uhhh...wow.

If you crashed into a house, VDC was not going to save you, you've gone well beyond the limits of VDC, the car, and your driving abilities. It is not a magic button that let's you drive around like a bat out of hell without worry (and the fact that people seem to think it is worries me). It prevents oversteer and slippage...not complete stupidity.

FYI, you are not going to get into trouble for turning off VDC. You're going to get into trouble for driving in a manner that would crash your car into a house. You'd get into the exact same amount of trouble whether VDC was on or off, and you can accomplish the same stupdity of hitting a house either way.
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uhhh...wow.

If you crashed into a house, VDC was not going to save you, you've gone well beyond the limits of VDC, the car, and your driving abilities. It is not a magic button that let's you drive around like a bat out of hell without worry (and the fact that people seem to think it is worries me). It prevents oversteer and slippage...not complete stupidity.

FYI, you are not going to get into trouble for turning off VDC. You're going to get into trouble for driving in a manner that would crash your car into a house. You'd get into the exact same amount of trouble whether VDC was on or off, and you can accomplish the same stupdity of hitting a house either way.
this I know what Im saying is when it comes to a company paying lots of money out to cover a claim for a huge hospital bill and repair to property and those hurt will investigate to posibbly get out of it and if they find things that are done to disable safety devices they have a way out. So hard wiring any safety features off is asking for trouble. Not mention a big law suit to boot from the innocent ones.

Kinda like turning off the air bags and asking for coverage when you get hurt from not having them.
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Kinda like turning off the air bags and asking for coverage when you get hurt from not having them.
I've removed the air bag steering wheel from my Miata, but I'm confident that the doors will be all I need to protect me.
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I've removed the air bag steering wheel from my Miata, but I'm confident that the doors will be all I need to protect me.
The doors form a protective shield around the occupant.

In a Miata, side impacts are impossible. The Miata Doors sense the incoming vehcile and trigger a high explosive blast directing energy towards the oncoming car, thus destroying it and stopping it in its path. Collision averted.

When Jack Bauer assaulted President Logan's motorcade in the final season of 24, he used a Miata door as a shield.
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