Buyer's Remorse

FairmanZ · 02-23-2009, 07:37 PM

I don't buy the resale argument some use for getting the Touring. You spend 6K more for Touring with Nav, you won't get 6K back come resale time. If one keeps the car for 4 years or more, you might get 2K more at best all other things being equal.

I'm still undecided if I want the Touring. There are a few things I really want from the Touring, but a lot of things I don't really need or care about. Money isn't the issue for me. The trade-off on performance vs. luxury is. I do want every ounce of performance this car has to offer, so to me that's the Base + Sport.

And although money isn't the issue for me, it's still a factor in principal. At $33K the car is a sports car performance bargain. At near $40K, it's just another nice sports car.

ZforMe · 02-23-2009, 08:14 PM

I bought the base with sport and an auto. Absolutely no remorse. I would say I drive the car 90% of the time with the radio off, so no loss there (although I have to admit, for only 4 speakers, the base radio is pretty nice). I have an iphone, so the navi wouldn't have helped much more than what I can do with google maps (has already gotten me out of a few binds). I would've liked the leather and the homelink rear view mirror, but for the additional 4300 or so touring cost, definately not worth it. I bought a sports car, not a luxury car and I'm happy.

Feel free to rip me on the auto tranny, but it's exactly what I wanted.

theDreamer · 02-23-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZforMe?

I bought the base with sport and an auto. Absolutely no remorse. I would say I drive the car 90% of the time with the radio off, so no loss there (although I have to admit, for only 4 speakers, the base radio is pretty nice). I have an iphone, so the navi wouldn't have helped much more than what I can do with google maps (has already gotten me out of a few binds). I would've liked the leather and the homelink rear view mirror, but for the additional 4300 or so touring cost, definately not worth it. I bought a sports car, not a luxury car and I'm happy.

Feel free to rip me on the auto tranny, but it's exactly what I wanted.

It is what I am getting (auto with base and sport) and I wanted leather, but for 4k more it was not worth it. Plus I know a few places that will redo the seats for a fair price (1,000) and it will be exactly what colors I want.

sbkim · 02-23-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ZforMe?

Feel free to rip me on the auto tranny, but it's exactly what I wanted.

Hey, there is nothing wrong with 7AT

I am all about performance but this will also be my DD (except rain/snow) so comfort and luxury ranks high.

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Originally Posted by FairmanZ

I don't buy the resale argument some use for getting the Touring. You spend 6K more for Touring with Nav, you won't get 6K back come resale time. If one keeps the car for 4 years or more, you might get 2K more at best all other things being equal.

I'm still undecided if I want the Touring. There are a few things I really want from the Touring, but a lot of things I don't really need or care about. Money isn't the issue for me. The trade-off on performance vs. luxury is. I do want every ounce of performance this car has to offer, so to me that's the Base + Sport.

And although money isn't the issue for me, it's still a factor in principal. At $33K the car is a sports car performance bargain. At near $40K, it's just another nice sports car.

Based on your basic math, $6k now for $2k, 4 yrs later isn't so bad considering depreciation and extra "utility" of having touring and nav. Also, we can underestimate the extra marketing edge of having touring and nav later vs a base car - could mean quicker sale later.

I am also not buying your extra "performance" over touring - come on, we are talking 46lbs.

At the end, it all comes down to what can you afford and willing to dish out for a Z. Either way, it's win win.

FairmanZ · 02-23-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sbkim

Based on your basic math, $6k now for $2k, 4 yrs later isn't so bad considering depreciation and extra "utility" of having touring and nav. Also, we can underestimate the extra marketing edge of having touring and nav later vs a base car - could mean quicker sale later.

I am also not buying your extra "performance" over touring - come on, we are talking 46lbs.

At the end, it all comes down to what can you afford and willing to dish out for a Z. Either way, it's win win.

If one buys the Touring + Nav because that's what one wants, more power to 'em - nothing wrong with that. But to buy with the mindset of helping resale value is what I don't agree with. Cars are depreciating assets no matter how you spin it. The more you spend, the more you will lose in depreciation in the long run.

As for performance, yeah 46 lbs may not seem like a big deal. Yet there will be many trying to shave every bit of fat from the Z to get it lighter. Starting out with the Touring + Nav + 7spd AT starts you off automatically at a weight disadvantage. That’s the heaviest configuration model. You’ve got an added 46 for the Touring + 37 for the AT + more for the Nav.

Although Nissan marketing claims 46 lbs difference, I have a sneaky feeling once people get the cars on the scales the Touring will be even heavier. Nissan states the Base is 3232 lbs. Yet Car & Driver and MotorTrend weighed their test cars (Base + Sport) at 3350-3370 lbs. Add 46+ lbs more, means the Touring will be well over 3400 lbs!

But having said all this, I’m still personally torn between whether to get the Touring or Base. For me, it’s not about the money; I will be paying cash for the car either way. It basically comes down to what I want for my needs.

shiftmx05 · 02-24-2009, 07:02 PM

Just wanted to add my two cent, and correct me if im wrong but...

It you buy the touring without the navi then if looks like you will not be able to update the headunit to a system with navigation because the headunit is integrated into the A/C and heat controls...

whereas if you buy just the base model the headunit is seperate from the heat and A/C controls

I plan on buying the base model with sport package and placing my navigation system from my 350 into it.. it will look real clean and that way and i will be able to wire my ipod into the compartment above the headunit just as in my 350.

SoCal 370Z · 02-24-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shiftmx05

It you buy the touring without the navi then if looks like you will not be able to update the headunit to a system with navigation because the headunit is integrated into the A/C and heat controls...

whereas if you buy just the base model the headunit is seperate from the heat and A/C controls.

Correct.

02-23-2009, 07:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
FairmanZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 133 Drives: Z34 future owner Rep Power: 18	I don't buy the resale argument some use for getting the Touring. You spend 6K more for Touring with Nav, you won't get 6K back come resale time. If one keeps the car for 4 years or more, you might get 2K more at best all other things being equal. I'm still undecided if I want the Touring. There are a few things I really want from the Touring, but a lot of things I don't really need or care about. Money isn't the issue for me. The trade-off on performance vs. luxury is. I do want every ounce of performance this car has to offer, so to me that's the Base + Sport. And although money isn't the issue for me, it's still a factor in principal. At $33K the car is a sports car performance bargain. At near $40K, it's just another nice sports car.

02-23-2009, 08:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
ZforMe Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 238 Drives: 370Z Sport Auto PG Rep Power: 18	I bought the base with sport and an auto. Absolutely no remorse. I would say I drive the car 90% of the time with the radio off, so no loss there (although I have to admit, for only 4 speakers, the base radio is pretty nice). I have an iphone, so the navi wouldn't have helped much more than what I can do with google maps (has already gotten me out of a few binds). I would've liked the leather and the homelink rear view mirror, but for the additional 4300 or so touring cost, definately not worth it. I bought a sports car, not a luxury car and I'm happy. Feel free to rip me on the auto tranny, but it's exactly what I wanted.

02-24-2009, 07:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
shiftmx05 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philly Posts: 12 Drives: 06 Nissan 350Z Rep Power: 18	Just wanted to add my two cent, and correct me if im wrong but... It you buy the touring without the navi then if looks like you will not be able to update the headunit to a system with navigation because the headunit is integrated into the A/C and heat controls... whereas if you buy just the base model the headunit is seperate from the heat and A/C controls I plan on buying the base model with sport package and placing my navigation system from my 350 into it.. it will look real clean and that way and i will be able to wire my ipod into the compartment above the headunit just as in my 350.