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What is a STOCK 370Z with MT actually putting down?

I have seen RWHP postings ranging from 260 all the way up to 282 for STOCK 370Z's with MT's. It is hard for me to accept that there is this

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Old 05-06-2010, 06:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have seen RWHP postings ranging from 260 all the way up to 282 for STOCK 370Z's with MT's. It is hard for me to accept that there is this much RWHP latitude between 370Z''s with MT's. What is this car actually putting down in a pure "off-the-lot" STOCK configuration??
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Man this thread can go on forever. This will definately start the "which dyno is the most accurate" thread. Some dynos run low, some run high. I would just take that median number and call that the closest truth. So if some are as low as 260 and as high as 282 hp. I would say 271 is the median true rwhp on the Z. Wat you really need is torque anyway. Without torque hp can only do so much. I wish nissan designed this car to be more like 332hp 300lbs torque. If its a beast now? Imagine with 30 lbs more torque. Lol. CRAZY!
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Unknown is correct, it is all dyno based because they all measure things differently, and after that you have variables of temperature, humidity, altitude, etc.
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I have seen RWHP postings ranging from 260 all the way up to 282 for STOCK 370Z's with MT's. It is hard for me to accept that there is this much RWHP latitude between 370Z''s with MT's. What is this car actually putting down in a pure "off-the-lot" STOCK configuration??
Depends on the dyno.

I think I dyno'd 259 stock on a Dyno Dynamics (which read low compared to something like a Dyno Jet).
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Dynos are like body fat calipers IMHO. They will only get you close to a true reading.
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The biggest numbers I got (last Tuesday) were 296.90HP and 380.73TQ on different runs.
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What?! That's a scan of the actual printout! Numbers don't lie.
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Man this thread can go on forever. This will definately start the "which dyno is the most accurate" thread. Some dynos run low, some run high. I would just take that median number and call that the closest truth. So if some are as low as 260 and as high as 282 hp. I would say 271 is the median true rwhp on the Z. Wat you really need is torque anyway. Without torque hp can only do so much. I wish nissan designed this car to be more like 332hp 300lbs torque. If its a beast now? Imagine with 30 lbs more torque. Lol. CRAZY!
If nissan designed this same engine to only rev 6000rpm or make its peak power at 6000 rpm then you would have that much tq. You can't have high revs and high tq at the same time. There is a constant number in a HP vs TQ formula which applies to every engine in the world. That number is based on physics that can not be changed.
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If nissan designed this same engine to only rev 6000rpm or make its peak power at 6000 rpm then you would have that much tq. You can't have high revs and high tq at the same time. There is a constant number in a HP vs TQ formula which applies to every engine in the world. That number is based on physics that can not be changed.
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