2011 Mustang GT... I think I need to re-think my next car

B1nks · 03-29-2010, 11:06 PM

I found it a bit depressing when I looked in this months Modified Magazine and saw a Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the 3.8l V6. It was bolt on mods and a tune to the tune of 310whp 296trq..wtf..296trq N/A !? Where is the Z going wrong !?!?!?

EDIT: Sorry to get off topic but I didn't wanna start a new thread and I kinda feel this is sorta in the same category as Z compared to XXX and how disappointing, power wise, the Z is stacking up.

40th370z · 03-29-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B1nks

I found it a bit depressing when I looked in this months Modified Magazine and saw a Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the 3.8l V6. It was bolt on mods and a tune to the tune of 310whp 296trq..wtf..296trq N/A !? Where is the Z going wrong !?!?!?

EDIT: Sorry to get off topic but I didn't wanna start a new thread and I kinda feel this is sorta in the same category as Z compared to XXX and how disappointing, power wise, the Z is stacking up.

Hey we were trashing Mustangs ,start a hyundiai trash thread

rsximus · 03-29-2010, 11:43 PM

Very impressive offering by Ford. Numbers do look very nice on paper.

I'm sure this car is very fast in the 1/4, .94 G's on the skidpad doesn't tell the whole story about handling, a lot of it is attributed to the tires.

If I recall the 3000GT VR4 used to pull some mightly impressive numbers on the skipad, over .90 G's also. In real life it's a handful in the twisties, mainly due to its weight. I have a feeling it will be the same for this Mustang, Fast in a straight line, handling looks good on paper but in real life it will be nowhere near as enjoyable tossing around or precise as a 370Z. I could be totally wrong also.

Zsteve · 03-29-2010, 11:47 PM

If you get the stang you will be one of those guys trying to figure out which car is yours in the parking lot. They are and always will be a dime a dozen. Too common and too plain looking inside and out. What are they estimating the 2011 0 60 and 1/4 mile times to be?

Pushing_Tin · 03-30-2010, 12:22 AM

I will test drive one, and who knows.

gamallama · 03-30-2010, 02:36 AM

You know this is just a thought but, if you want to buy a car based on numbers & how fast it goes why would you even be thinking about a $30,000+ mustang? If you want to get 0-60 under 4.3 seconds go buy a old camaro throw a SC and other goodies on it and you will have spent less than $30,000 for a FASTER car. It doesnt bother me that these new cars are faster than a 370z. IMO people dont buy 370z because of their 0-60 times or its 1/4 mile times.

They but it because it is a 370z

Crazy8 · 03-30-2010, 05:21 AM

As soon as you buy the Gt, camaro or some else will come out with one that has even more hp. It's a game.

dat370zguy · 03-30-2010, 05:40 AM

Uhh never been a stang or domestic type of guy, but I'll give props to the whole retro styling as the stang, looks wise, has made a come back. That being said is it still running a live axle? Wasn't that a point of frustration with the stang?

LiquidZ · 03-30-2010, 07:52 AM

Sorry Matt, I fail to see it. The interior is supposed to be retro, but I don't see it here.

370ZGhost · 03-30-2010, 08:48 AM

Ya Buy the Stang if you want to Drag and be upside down in it even if you plan to put 5000-6000 down. the 370z holds itself in the corners and holds its resale value alot better. I believe it won a award from kbb...sports car with the best resale value in its class...and domestic cars resale drops like a rock.

SeeyaBud86 · 03-30-2010, 08:48 AM

Here is the difference plain and simple.

I see literally 5 2010 Mustangs everytime I get on the road(which is generally a 10 minute drive because Naples is a small city). The 350z was a very common car, as with the Mustang, but the 370 on the other hand is a little more exclusive. Mustangs are generic, plain and simple. Most people buy a Mustang because:
A. It looks fast(which is debatable)
B. The average person thinks Mustangs are fast simply because of American Tradition
C. Most teenage kids ask their parents for a Mustang GT in high school, which also ties into B^^

Some people also pick the 370 (and all Z's) for the same reasons as well. But, I think a higher % of people who buy the Z's actually buy it because its an all around good performance car. I could have gotten more power and a faster car if I wanted to, but I wanted more for my money. Who cares if your "sports coupe" is fast in a straight line, but handles like an SUV in the twistys. Thats like having a hot wife that you can only look at, but not touch. The Z is an agile wide receiver, while the Mustang is a 450lb (arguably 500lb) linebacker.

That being said. The new 5.0 GT is very, very impressive. It looks the same as the 2010 GT (everyone who bought that got screwed), and it does have some eye popping numbers. The Brembo brake package is really great, as well with an aluminum block(finally, welcome to 2010 Ford). But the only Mustang that I would ever look at is the 2013 model, which is rumored to actually have an independent rear axle. This will actually make the Stang handle decently.

So to the OP here is the verdict:

Mustang for street(cocktail party talk - probably more like frat party talk)
Z for all around performance (Back/side street weapon - After Stillen S/C it will be faster than Stang anyways.)

NewYorkJon34 · 03-30-2010, 09:34 AM

Very well said bro, case closed if you ask me, but I'll add 1 thing. Up intill now failure*, oh I mean ford has been selling customers a sorry excuse for a V8 for years, and that goes for most special edition mustangs as well aka. Roush. To the OP, Argue if you want, but the only ford I'd ever consider buying would be 1 with a shelby name on it like the new gt350. Other then that just go with the 370Z, you'll never regret it. It's a great platform to start modding, and IMO it just might be the ultimate car in every catagory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeyaBud86

Here is the difference plain and simple.

I see literally 5 2010 Mustangs everytime I get on the road(which is generally a 10 minute drive because Naples is a small city). The 350z was a very common car, as with the Mustang, but the 370 on the other hand is a little more exclusive. Mustangs are generic, plain and simple. Most people buy a Mustang because:
A. It looks fast(which is debatable)
B. The average person thinks Mustangs are fast simply because of American Tradition
C. Most teenage kids ask their parents for a Mustang GT in high school, which also ties into B^^

Some people also pick the 370 (and all Z's) for the same reasons as well. But, I think a higher % of people who buy the Z's actually buy it because its an all around good performance car. I could have gotten more power and a faster car if I wanted to, but I wanted more for my money. Who cares if your "sports coupe" is fast in a straight line, but handles like an SUV in the twistys. Thats like having a hot wife that you can only look at, but not touch. The Z is an agile wide receiver, while the Mustang is a 450lb (arguably 500lb) linebacker.

That being said. The new 5.0 GT is very, very impressive. It looks the same as the 2010 GT (everyone who bought that got screwed), and it does have some eye popping numbers. The Brembo brake package is really great, as well with an aluminum block(finally, welcome to 2010 Ford). But the only Mustang that I would ever look at is the 2013 model, which is rumored to actually have an independent rear axle. This will actually make the Stang handle decently.

So to the OP here is the verdict:

Mustang for street(cocktail party talk - probably more like frat party talk)
Z for all around performance (Back/side street weapon - After Stillen S/C it will be faster than Stang anyways.)

WICKED_GRIN · 03-30-2010, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeyaBud86

Here is the difference plain and simple.

I see literally 5 2010 Mustangs everytime I get on the road(which is generally a 10 minute drive because Naples is a small city). The 350z was a very common car, as with the Mustang, but the 370 on the other hand is a little more exclusive. Mustangs are generic, plain and simple. Most people buy a Mustang because:
A. It looks fast(which is debatable)
B. The average person thinks Mustangs are fast simply because of American Tradition
C. Most teenage kids ask their parents for a Mustang GT in high school, which also ties into B^^

Some people also pick the 370 (and all Z's) for the same reasons as well. But, I think a higher % of people who buy the Z's actually buy it because its an all around good performance car. I could have gotten more power and a faster car if I wanted to, but I wanted more for my money. Who cares if your "sports coupe" is fast in a straight line, but handles like an SUV in the twistys. Thats like having a hot wife that you can only look at, but not touch. The Z is an agile wide receiver, while the Mustang is a 450lb (arguably 500lb) linebacker.

That being said. The new 5.0 GT is very, very impressive. It looks the same as the 2010 GT (everyone who bought that got screwed), and it does have some eye popping numbers. The Brembo brake package is really great, as well with an aluminum block(finally, welcome to 2010 Ford). But the only Mustang that I would ever look at is the 2013 model, which is rumored to actually have an independent rear axle. This will actually make the Stang handle decently.

So to the OP here is the verdict:

Mustang for street(cocktail party talk - probably more like frat party talk)
Z for all around performance (Back/side street weapon - After Stillen S/C it will be faster than Stang anyways.)

You are right……in 2014, it’s the Mustang 50th year anniversary! Twin Turbo V6, IRS etc. It might then be time to trade in my Roadster!! Or Maybe not……

Report: Next Ford Mustang to go global, adopt IRS

rednek01 · 03-30-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Sorry Matt, I fail to see it. The interior is supposed to be retro, but I don't see it here.

do a little research

1967 mustang interior

2005-2009 mustang interior (first of the retro mustang modeled of 60's mustangs) ...Hint notice the dual big face gauges and dash line!

2010-2011+ a more modernized approach to the retro design (again there is a theme of the big dual gauges and the dashline which is all a bit more subtle also notice the center console area pretty similar shapes as well.

Matt · 03-30-2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Sorry Matt, I fail to see it. The interior is supposed to be retro, but I don't see it here.

So you agree with my coworkers when they felt the interior of the 2011 looked antiquated and ugly?

03-29-2010, 11:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	If you get the stang you will be one of those guys trying to figure out which car is yours in the parking lot. They are and always will be a dime a dozen. Too common and too plain looking inside and out. What are they estimating the 2011 0 60 and 1/4 mile times to be? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette Last edited by Zsteve; 03-29-2010 at 11:49 PM.

03-30-2010, 02:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
gamallama Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: houston Posts: 33 Drives: honda Rep Power: 17	You know this is just a thought but, if you want to buy a car based on numbers & how fast it goes why would you even be thinking about a $30,000+ mustang? If you want to get 0-60 under 4.3 seconds go buy a old camaro throw a SC and other goodies on it and you will have spent less than $30,000 for a FASTER car. It doesnt bother me that these new cars are faster than a 370z. IMO people dont buy 370z because of their 0-60 times or its 1/4 mile times. They but it because it is a 370z Last edited by gamallama; 03-30-2010 at 02:37 AM. Reason: error

03-30-2010, 05:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
dat370zguy Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: around Posts: 19 Drives: no more 350 >.< Rep Power: 18	Uhh never been a stang or domestic type of guy, but I'll give props to the whole retro styling as the stang, looks wise, has made a come back. That being said is it still running a live axle? Wasn't that a point of frustration with the stang? __________________ Broke

03-30-2010, 07:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 706	Sorry Matt, I fail to see it. The interior is supposed to be retro, but I don't see it here. __________________

03-30-2010, 08:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
SeeyaBud86 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 480 Drives: 09 PW 370z 6MT Rep Power: 18	Here is the difference plain and simple. I see literally 5 2010 Mustangs everytime I get on the road(which is generally a 10 minute drive because Naples is a small city). The 350z was a very common car, as with the Mustang, but the 370 on the other hand is a little more exclusive. Mustangs are generic, plain and simple. Most people buy a Mustang because: A. It looks fast(which is debatable) B. The average person thinks Mustangs are fast simply because of American Tradition C. Most teenage kids ask their parents for a Mustang GT in high school, which also ties into B^^ Some people also pick the 370 (and all Z's) for the same reasons as well. But, I think a higher % of people who buy the Z's actually buy it because its an all around good performance car. I could have gotten more power and a faster car if I wanted to, but I wanted more for my money. Who cares if your "sports coupe" is fast in a straight line, but handles like an SUV in the twistys. Thats like having a hot wife that you can only look at, but not touch. The Z is an agile wide receiver, while the Mustang is a 450lb (arguably 500lb) linebacker. That being said. The new 5.0 GT is very, very impressive. It looks the same as the 2010 GT (everyone who bought that got screwed), and it does have some eye popping numbers. The Brembo brake package is really great, as well with an aluminum block(finally, welcome to 2010 Ford). But the only Mustang that I would ever look at is the 2013 model, which is rumored to actually have an independent rear axle. This will actually make the Stang handle decently. So to the OP here is the verdict: Mustang for street(cocktail party talk - probably more like frat party talk) Z for all around performance (Back/side street weapon - After Stillen S/C it will be faster than Stang anyways.) __________________ My Z:http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...l-finally.html 1969 MGB for sale: http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...ml#post1238143

03-29-2010, 11:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
B1nks Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 721 Drives: 2009 370Z Base 6MT Rep Power: 509	I found it a bit depressing when I looked in this months Modified Magazine and saw a Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the 3.8l V6. It was bolt on mods and a tune to the tune of 310whp 296trq..wtf..296trq N/A !? Where is the Z going wrong !?!?!? EDIT: Sorry to get off topic but I didn't wanna start a new thread and I kinda feel this is sorta in the same category as Z compared to XXX and how disappointing, power wise, the Z is stacking up.

03-29-2010, 11:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
rsximus Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oxnard Posts: 37 Drives: 2007 335i, 2009 370Z Rep Power: 17	Very impressive offering by Ford. Numbers do look very nice on paper. I'm sure this car is very fast in the 1/4, .94 G's on the skidpad doesn't tell the whole story about handling, a lot of it is attributed to the tires. If I recall the 3000GT VR4 used to pull some mightly impressive numbers on the skipad, over .90 G's also. In real life it's a handful in the twisties, mainly due to its weight. I have a feeling it will be the same for this Mustang, Fast in a straight line, handling looks good on paper but in real life it will be nowhere near as enjoyable tossing around or precise as a 370Z. I could be totally wrong also.

03-30-2010, 12:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 229	I will test drive one, and who knows.

03-30-2010, 05:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
Crazy8 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 255 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 17	As soon as you buy the Gt, camaro or some else will come out with one that has even more hp. It's a game.

03-30-2010, 08:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
370ZGhost Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Age: 39 Posts: 42 Drives: 10' 370Z Touring/Nav Rep Power: 17	Ya Buy the Stang if you want to Drag and be upside down in it even if you plan to put 5000-6000 down. the 370z holds itself in the corners and holds its resale value alot better. I believe it won a award from kbb...sports car with the best resale value in its class...and domestic cars resale drops like a rock.

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