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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 The design is different between the two. Its not an exact match. Is the Z1 more ridged or lighter? Is it "better" in some way?

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Old 08-12-2023, 01:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The design is different between the two. Its not an exact match. Is the Z1 more ridged or lighter? Is it "better" in some way? Also, the original price of the Soul Function is $276. The sale price is $155, but it isn't in stock. When it comes back in to stock I'm curious to see what the price will be. In general these days, things that went out of stock awhile back are coming back at a higher price.

Just my $0.02. I could be completely wrong though.
It was just an example. The rest is semantics. In the end, the products purpose is the same.

SF has been around a long time. Z1 picked up on a popular product and made their own modification/tweaks to make it "theirs".

Without proper research to see availability at other dealer and calling SF for proper pricing and availability, it's hard to say whats what. It's probably safe to assume they will be very close.

In the end, Z1 copied an existing product. Can they make it cheaper? probably. Is the other guy just overpriced? Maybe.

This is just an example of a product out there and maybe Z1 developed other things in house before anyone else.

Their CAI is an example of "how do I make it different than the others" Z1 solution is to convince the buyer that they don't need to cut any frame but just squeeze the sillicon elbow through a tight hole?

I'm sure it works and you wont notice a thing, but to me, thats not R&D that sets them significantly apart form the others.

No hate on for Z1, but I refuse to believe they are making an exceptional product or have spent countless hours developing it.
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their R&D goes into making already existing ideas significantly cheaper. Their "innovation" imo is entirely in lowering the price, and it's a good thing. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy their products... They get too much hate imo.
It's the Home Depot vs local Hardware store.
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and Z1 trying to be the Snap-On of ZG?
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