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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead you could also consider the lotus emira. pickings are pretty slim for newish drivers cars. The manual supra is coming. but that's also a bmw. and

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Old 04-06-2022, 10:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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you could also consider the lotus emira.
pickings are pretty slim for newish drivers cars.

The manual supra is coming. but that's also a bmw.
and it didn't fair well in a comparison with the m2cs
it does have a huge push in aftermarket support going on right now tho so who knows.

the miata and the GR86, 400z, 370z, supra, emira, audi ttrs, cayman are my shortlist.
maybe try to drive those?

everyone is raving about the new brz now that the torque dip is solved.

the problem with the c8, camaro, and mustang is they are all like 3800 lbs.
Agreed on that weight question at 4,000 lbs. I haven't driven one "with vigor', but imagine it takes away from fun on smaller roads. Plus the width I complained about a little earlier.

Emira is expected to be around $70k for a 3,000 lb car. Nah. Lotuses are supposed to be light. I imagine Elise values will be climbing since there apparently is no replacement. (Elise weighs like 2,000 pounds.)

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A. What don't you like about the Miata, it is a great car for
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B. Why do you think an out of the box Z isn't good at being fun? Assuming you don't go for an open diff version or auto.
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Not trying to be sarcastic but the only real down side of a Miata is the small size for bigger people, 2 seats, and top speed which isn't that important on the street. It can corner as good as if not better then most sports cars. The 370Z is a very good sports car out of the box, and you really won't see any deficiencies with any type of street driving. If it's size and power you are looking for in a sporty looking car, stick with the Domestic brands; Dodge, Chevy, Ford. The Ford Mustang Mach 1 is a great car from what I can tell though it's a little more then the 50K budget you are looking at. Then the Camaro SS1/2 and finally the Dodges

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Ford, Taurus, SHO
Chevy, Camaro, 1SS
Dodge, Charger, SCAT
Dodge, Challenger, SCAT
Ford, Mustang, GT
Hyundai, Veloster, N
Ford, Mustang, Mach 1
VW, Golf, R
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My opinion is the '12 Sport Manual Z is your most bang for the buck of the list. I have a 2010 Sport, still on oe shocks and springs with a front sway bar, 255 front/ 305 19 rear tires and it handles like a dream. No issues in Florida rain but I'm partial since paying $15k for it in 2016 with 72k miles.

Came out of a 600+ HP Supercharged Mustang and I find the Z to be much more fun, it's a go-kart. I too would love a Cayman S but both it and the Z are hobby cars and won't justify the cost, especially in the current elevated market. Hopefully the Cayman will be given away when everything comes crashing down...........it's coming.
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