Which Direction for Good Handling, Forgiving Z?

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you could also consider the lotus emira.
pickings are pretty slim for newish drivers cars.

The manual supra is coming. but that's also a bmw.
and it didn't fair well in a comparison with the m2cs
it does have a huge push in aftermarket support going on right now tho so who knows.

the miata and the GR86, 400z, 370z, supra, emira, audi ttrs, cayman are my shortlist.
maybe try to drive those?

everyone is raving about the new brz now that the torque dip is solved.

the problem with the c8, camaro, and mustang is they are all like 3800 lbs.

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Agreed on that weight question at 4,000 lbs. I haven't driven one "with vigor', but imagine it takes away from fun on smaller roads. Plus the width I complained about a little earlier.

Emira is expected to be around $70k for a 3,000 lb car. Nah. Lotuses are supposed to be light. I imagine Elise values will be climbing since there apparently is no replacement. (Elise weighs like 2,000 pounds.)