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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 I am amazed... "Kill the Z.." Wow. Sell yours Buddy, you don't deserve it. Why not buy a BRZ,FRS, XYZ or LMNOP or something like that.

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Old 07-09-2019, 10:11 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I am amazed... "Kill the Z.." Wow. Sell yours Buddy, you don't deserve it. Why not buy a BRZ,FRS, XYZ or LMNOP or something like that. I think you'd be happier. Then move on to their website and spare us Z Enthusiasts please.



Back to Point, I think the Sport/Touring Model is now re-labeled as the 50th Anniversary. I just checked on the NissanUSA website and you can pick up a 50th Anniversary Manual Tranny with the Synchro-Rev Match as well as leather appointed interior, Bigger Brakes and 19" Ray's... No Fear, it's just a labeling issue, but it's still there...


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Old 07-10-2019, 12:17 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I too think the 370z is a beautiful car, but it is hard to convince new car buyers to fork out $40k when you can get a nice used one for about $20k. I hope there will be another iteration of the Z, but it's quite doubtful from the economic stand points. There is no profit in the sport car market. Everyone is buying the cross-overs, suv's and EV's.

on a different point, Just read the test results on the new Supra in 'car and driver' magazine. It looks really nice and fast. It is a bit wider and longer than the z. 1/4 mile time at 12.3 sec, and 0 to 60mph at 3.8 sec. MSRP at $55k. There will probably be $10k markups, but it'll be interested when the hype/price cool down next year or so.


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Despite its age, the Z's exterior styling still turns heads. It's the standard equipment that shows the car's age and turns potential buyers away. Driving the Z and my wife's F30 back-to-back really is night and day. The BMW's intuitive touch screen, excellent backup camera, various driving modes, and all the other sh!t people want but don't need actually make it an enjoyable cruiser. It's not fast by any means, but enough to put a smile on my face. I wish Nissan made incremental improvements to the Z over the years to keep it more competitive such as sound deadening, slight increase in power, better infotainment system, etc., instead of just slapping on some decals.
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For me the Z is more exciting. That's why I bought a new manual Sports Tech last year. It was the first sports car that I have ever had in my 64 years on this earth. It had the look and the nostalgia to go along with it. As someone said, "It is a new old car." Just what I wanted to keep me smiling!
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you're right on.... new car buyers want something new regardless of the 'need'. I have the full loaded version of Z and like the interior just fine.... but it is quite dated compared to the newer cars.

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The Z is a fun car, just make sure you shop around the price a bit before you decide to purchase. Comp from dealers using different sites like cars.com, autotrader, and autolist. That way when you go to a local/ dealer you know what to expect and possibly have a bargaining chip. I love the Z but I also agree, it's due for a little revamp.
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reviving the topic, I noticed something that bothered me since day one. The voice controls...really, no matter who is in the car and I have them speak to the unit for "anything"...it doesn't understand or communicate well. I thought it was my thick Brasilian accent but it's not. My son just bought a Charger and even recognizes who farted in the car, now that's technology.
All kidding aside it matters because it's supposed to do what is supposed to do, but I've learned to type all the information and put my phone numbers on shortcut so I don't have to bother to say a word. If I was buying a new car and the technology was a factor the Z would not make the list but it sure makes up for the way it handles on the road, a driver's car...
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For me the Z is more exciting. That's why I bought a new manual Sports Tech last year. It was the first sports car that I have ever had in my 64 years on this earth. It had the look and the nostalgia to go along with it. As someone said, "It is a new old car." Just what I wanted to keep me smiling!
chowtoo, I'm about the same age as you and have been shopping for a 370Z for the same reasons you said - it's a 'new old car'.

I shake my head at the negative comments from the bench racers on line (who've never actually driven the car) about how the 370Z is 'dated' and 'old'. Yes, it is, but for me that's exactly the attraction. Everything these days is moving towards 'turbo 4' engines and silly video game 'paddle shifters'. So many people lament that there is a dearth of cars with that old-school analog feel, naturally aspirated torquey engine, manual transmission, and rear wheel drive.

The 370Z is exactly that car. As another thread said, it's one of the last truly analog sports cars that places driving feel and pure fun above meeting emissions requirements. Yes, the infotainment system is obsolete, but it still works, and if you don't like it, the answer is simple: get a car without it. Other than that, I think the styling is still almost show car gorgeous, and the performance very competitive with the only other analog sports cars out there - the Miata, and the Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86 (which I've also been seriously considering; the Toyobaru twins are a fun driven though with an anemic engine).

I think the 370Z is one of those cars that will be missed when it's gone (which, given what a mess Nissan is in these days, may be soon; I'd bet that the 2020 model year will be the last for the 370Z).
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Analogman, great name and great response. My wife and I have a few cars. This is my favorite for a bunch of reasons. First is the looks, then there is the analog feel, followed by knowing that there is enough power to enjoy. My wife has a 2017 Miata, which also looks very nice and has a simple convertible top that is fairly easy to operate and robust (unlike the Z convertibles, it seems). The Z is more fun for me and there is nothing like it for the price.
In the winter I drive my front wheel drive sedan. For towing and loads, there is a pickup. For speed and high thrill on the open road I drive one of my sports bikes. However, for a big smile with comfort and feel on four wheels, this is the car that I drive!
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That more and more women either buy cars and/or have a say in what their hubbies buy and the females don't want a standard transmission. He flat out told me the female consumer has killed the stick and, in order to remain competitive, they are following the trend. For female fans of sticks, and those who know them, your beef is with Nissan, not me. I spoke with the general manager, service personnel, and other employees who are fans of the Z and they all repeated the same story. Next door is a Mazda dealer. I went there to snag the last pieces for Mazda Rx7s they had hidden in some long forgotten corner (my son's 84) and brought this topic up. They all agreed that what the Nissan folks said is indeed true. Buy one while you still can.
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A lot of men in this generation straight up won't size up to learning how to drive a stick, period. I totally get it when it involves a crammed city with hills, but a lot of men are completely shy of approaching a manual to start. Society is different. Men and cars don't have the same association as before, especially when costs of living can keep people from owning cars in general.

I won't...discriminate, but if anyone starts bragging about their auto, they just sound incredibly silly. On the flip side I don't see that anyone should brag about a manual. They can say it's fun and why they like it, but in modern day where a DCT has performance superiority, there's nothing to brag about. Maybe one's own driving skills, but there will be a day where being able to drive a manual is like saying you can do that swords-down-your-throat trick. Cool, kinda hardcore, but doesn't really...prove anything useful for yourself and society.
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I gave up on manual around the same time as I did the LP record. Both have it's advantages, but not missing either.
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A lot of men in this generation straight up won't size up to learning how to drive a stick, period. I totally get it when it involves a crammed city with hills, but a lot of men are completely shy of approaching a manual to start. Society is different. Men and cars don't have the same association as before, especially when costs of living can keep people from owning cars in general.

I won't...discriminate, but if anyone starts bragging about their auto, they just sound incredibly silly. On the flip side I don't see that anyone should brag about a manual. They can say it's fun and why they like it, but in modern day where a DCT has performance superiority, there's nothing to brag about. Maybe one's own driving skills, but there will be a day where being able to drive a manual is like saying you can do that swords-down-your-throat trick. Cool, kinda hardcore, but doesn't really...prove anything useful for yourself and society.
Sounds like you are describing driving in general. Computers have "performance superiority" in every respect. Dismissing the stick because it's only "fun" can and does apply to all aspects of driving...In five years will you be saying "Why use an accelerator pedal? Just because it's fun? The computer can do it with performance superiority". Driving a stick is more engaging, period. It's not arguable, except to justify why someone isn't doing it. Doing less equals doing less. Fewer skills are required for driving all the time. Of course, that is only a problem if you actually drive for enjoyment, which many fewer people do these days, I think.
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A lot of men in this generation straight up won't size up to learning how to drive a stick, period. I totally get it when it involves a crammed city with hills, but a lot of men are completely shy of approaching a manual to start. Society is different. Men and cars don't have the same association as before, especially when costs of living can keep people from owning cars in general.

I won't...discriminate, but if anyone starts bragging about their auto, they just sound incredibly silly. On the flip side I don't see that anyone should brag about a manual. They can say it's fun and why they like it, but in modern day where a DCT has performance superiority, there's nothing to brag about. Maybe one's own driving skills, but there will be a day where being able to drive a manual is like saying you can do that swords-down-your-throat trick. Cool, kinda hardcore, but doesn't really...prove anything useful for yourself and society.

I'm sorry, I disagree... there is an azz load of value in the swords down throat gimmick. Just because you can't do it, no need to put others down.
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