NOT another OIL thread..well sort of

[ZoomZ]

Originally Posted by JARblue

To be fair, the VQ engine is far superior to that Kia engine with known defects. I'd go with Motul 300V and call it a day. You're worrying about something that has more than a 99% chance of not happening under normal circumstances. Now if you're one of those people that can't let go of that 1%, then by all means put a lesser oil in your Z to CYA. Just my

Absolutely. I am fully aware that I am comparing Apples to Oranges when it comes to those engines/cars.

I wouldn't call them lesser oils. They are all good but serve different purposes.

I'm religious about fluids in vehicles and certainly it's not an easy subject to discuss. It's a billion+ dollar industry, and it is certainly full of it's hoaxes and kool-aids.

Dealers unfortunately are also aware of those potions and the not so educated drivers who use them. And unfortunately, we are pooled with those people and guilty until proven innocent.

My 1% fear does not come out of what I may do to my engine, but what the warranty people will use against me to avoid repairs/replacements. That didn't used to be the case 15-20 years ago.

I'm speaking solely from experience. Better safe than sorry.

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[JARblue]

Originally Posted by ZoomZ

I wouldn't call them lesser oils. They are all good but serve different purposes.

My 1% fear does not come out of what I may do to my engine

Better safe than sorry.

Well, lesser might be a subjective term. But Bob the Oil Guy forum will tell you 300V > 8100 across the board. Unless you want a longer OCI, I guess. I'd rather put a better oil in my car and tell the dealer to take a long hike off a short pier if something catastrophic happens. Of course, this attitude is only based on my situation.

Never suggested it would be something you did. In fact. I excluded the owner factor entirely by saying "normal circumstances". 'Normal' was probably a bad choice ... but that 1% is far higher when you consider idiot car owners that go for 20K mile OCIs. And you're on the opposite spectrum of owners. Just referring to the random defect that might crop up in the engine out of your control.

But I get it. I had a completely different attitude when the Z was my DD than I do now that it's not. In no way am I suggesting your cautiousness is the wrong approach

[ZoomZ]

Originally Posted by JARblue

Well, lesser might be a subjective term. But Bob the Oil Guy forum will tell you 300V > 8100 across the board. Unless you want a longer OCI, I guess. I'd rather put a better oil in my car and tell the dealer to take a long hike off a short pier if something catastrophic happens. Of course, this attitude is only based on my situation.

Never suggested it would be something you did. In fact. I excluded the owner factor entirely by saying "normal circumstances". 'Normal' was probably a bad choice ... but that 1% is far higher when you consider idiot car owners that go for 20K mile OCIs. And you're on the opposite spectrum of owners. Just referring to the random defect that might crop up in the engine out of your control.

But I get it. I had a completely different attitude when the Z was my DD than I do now that it's not. In no way am I suggesting your cautiousness is the wrong approach

Yes for sure. I never took your comment(s) the wrong way. Made perfect sense.

I also agree with you that 300V is the better oil, but at my normal 3100mile(5000KM) OCI and normal to spirited driving, Id be wasting money.

Then again, that kind of price shouldn't matter for quality insurance. I use the best oil for my airplane engine, but it's certified for that engine. There are cheaper, and inferior Aircraft piston oils.

I may just stick with M1 EP for now. Seems to like it. I was using Nissan Ester oil, but I think it's actually inferior to M1 EP.

And as I said before the 8100 matches the M1 specs and is a little less, so I may give it a try.

only a year or so left on warranty. Then It'll be either Redline or Motul 300v.